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MORMONISM: CHRISTIAN OR CULT?
Saints Alive in Jesus ^ | Ed Decker

Posted on 03/08/2011 7:02:46 AM PST by delacoert

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To: delacoert
Mormonism:......man became a God.

Christianity:...God became a man.

Both heretical. Both have a man as divine.

41 posted on 03/08/2011 1:08:48 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: delacoert
I'm not an official member of any church and I'm not Mormon.

That said, I could write up the foundations of Bible-centered Christianity and make them sound just as far-fetched and bizarre.

Internecine warfare is often the most abhorrent to God. He figures humans are not competent judges of whether another human is true to scripture.

Do you realize thousands have been killed over the Arian and Trinitarian views of the Godhead?

42 posted on 03/08/2011 1:11:35 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: blasater1960
Mormonism:......man became a God.
Christianity:...God became a man.

Oh, but then you DO admit that Mormonism is Christianity. Thank you.

43 posted on 03/08/2011 1:12:19 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Mariner
"That said, I could write up the foundations of Bible-centered Christianity and make them sound just as far-fetched and bizarre."

LOL

This crowd may stone you to death.

44 posted on 03/08/2011 1:19:36 PM PST by verity
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To: colorcountry
Oh, but then you DO admit that Mormonism is Christianity. Thank you.

Sure. Both Christianity and Mormonism premise "salvation" on Jesus. Even though miles apart on doctrine, the end result is the same.

45 posted on 03/08/2011 1:50:55 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: BlueMoose

To the whole post...


46 posted on 03/08/2011 1:54:41 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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I never really cared about the differences in religions (aside from Islam) until I got on FR. Since then I’ve found myself learning quite a bit. What have I learned?

1. Jews generally don’t care what you think of their theology. It’s worked fine for them for 5,000 years and if you don’t like it they’re patient enough to know their faith will be around in another 5,000 years while yours...

2. Mormons, Catholics, and Scientologists all sound alike when you poke at them.

3. Protestant Christians know their Bibles inside and out and, yet, for some reason they’ll still pimp for neo-con Republicans who always have a ‘good reason’ for not ending abortion.


47 posted on 03/08/2011 1:57:52 PM PST by MeganC (Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: Paragon Defender

The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter day Saints is or is not be a cult depending on how you define “is”, but anyone who can find glory in the fall of man as stated in the book of Mormon (2 Nephi 2:22–25) I certainly can not agree with their views of a Holy God.

“And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen [been cut off from the presence of God], but he would have remained in the Garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; …

“And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.

“But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things.

“Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy” (2 Nephi 2:22–25).


48 posted on 03/08/2011 2:00:27 PM PST by sbhitchc (Check your premise, contradictions do not exist -Francisco Domingo Carlos Andres Sabastien D'anconia)
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To: blasater1960
Oh, but then you DO admit that Mormonism isn't Christianity. Thank you.

I meant to say isn't. I guess that's why I try not to post when I'm working.

49 posted on 03/08/2011 2:02:00 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Mariner

So where do you draw the lines? All paths are correct?


50 posted on 03/08/2011 2:07:22 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
"So where do you draw the lines? All paths are correct?"

Absolutely not.

The one I believe in is right, everyone else is wrong:)

51 posted on 03/08/2011 2:18:20 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

Ah...


52 posted on 03/08/2011 2:45:44 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Normandy

Can I ask you a question that Paragon Defender refuses to answer for me? Joseph Smith made some false prophecies (e.g. his claim that the second coming would be in 1891). Prophets claim to speak for God. Did God lie? Or is Joseph Smith a false prophet?


53 posted on 03/08/2011 3:00:56 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: ejonesie22

The whole thing?


54 posted on 03/08/2011 3:07:18 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

Yes.

Why is this hard to understand.


55 posted on 03/08/2011 3:13:49 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
I don't understand how JS could have knowledge of manuscripts that were found in Egypt in 1946, with the translation not being completed until 1954.
56 posted on 03/08/2011 3:20:55 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

The founder of the Baptist Church in America, Roger Williams, just prior to leaving the church he established, said this: “There is no regularly constituted church of Christ on earth, nor any person qualified to administer any church ordinances; nor can there be until new apostles are sent by the Great Head of the Church for whose coming I am seeking.” (Picturesque America, p. 502.) Martin Luther had similar thoughts: “Nor can a Christian believer be forced beyond sacred Scriptures,...unless some new and proved revelation should be added; for we are forbidden by divine law to believe except what is proved either through the divine Scriptures or through Manifest revelation.” He also wrote: “I have sought nothing beyond reforming the Church in conformity with the Holy Scriptures. The spiritual powers have been not only corrupted by sin, but absolutely destroyed; so that there is now nothing in them but a depraved reason and a will that is the enemy and opponent of God. I simply say that Christianity has ceased to exist among those who should have preserved it.” The Lutheran, Baptist and Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) churches recognize an apostasy from early Christianity. The Lutheran and Baptist churches have attempted reform, but Mormonism (and Roger Williams, and perhaps Martin Luther) require inspired restoration, so as to re-establish an unbroken line of authority and apostolic succession.
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57 posted on 03/08/2011 3:29:45 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

If Joseph Smith taught a number of esoteric doctrines that were unknown to have existed in the early church during his time, but which research and uncovered documents (during the 1950 to 1970 period) now show were part of early Christianity, one has to conclude that he was inspired of God. Yale literary scholar Harold Bloom, wrote a book called The American Religion, in which he writes of Joseph Smith: “I can only attribute to his genius or heavenly intervention his uncanny recovery of many elements in ancient Jewish theurgy [xxvi] that had ceased to be available either to Judaism or to Christianity, and that had survived only in esoteric traditions unlikely to have touched Smith directly.” The Church which Joseph Smith restored is the original Church of Christ, as revealed in the many documents of the first three centuries after Christ .


58 posted on 03/08/2011 3:49:18 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: Mariner
There nothing internecine about it.

If you think you've got a valid point to make by trying to make Bible-centered Christianity sound far-fetched and bizarre then go for it.

59 posted on 03/08/2011 3:51:03 PM PST by delacoert
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To: BlueMoose

What does that have to do with my “no” to a post that had nothong to do with what you said.

Amd can you refrence this “manuscript”...


60 posted on 03/08/2011 4:22:48 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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