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To: Sto Zvirat
A good therapist in cases like dealing with severely depressed stands a far better chance of reaching a person considering suicide than a preacher or even some Psychiatrist in most cases. There is a huge difference between therapist or Psychologist and a Psychiatrist. Psychiatrist treat with meds the other two help you work out the problems. Mental illness is real and is serious.

Many things can drive a person there including ill health, abuse as a child and/or adult, loss of a loved one, loss of family through divorce, and yes even well meaning preachers can drive a person to it by putting GOD out of the hurting persons reach with religious rigity. They'll say Brother Billy you are healed.If brother Billy then is still depressed then some will say Oh Well Brother Billy's lack of faith is why. As one former Freeper used to say, Horse Hillary!

I have known two persons who did it both were very seriously ill. I know another who almost tried it {was caught by the abuser actually} and that person loves The Lord more then about anyone I know. That person is free of the abuser but will never be free of bouts of depression. A circumstance at that time made the person feel there was no other way out. The person years later got a wonderful therapist but still has depression. I don't think many posters in here could walk in that persons shoes and endure the life that person has without some very serious emotional issues happening.

I've spent a lot of time in therapy myself as in over 5 years. PTSD compounded with G.A.D. can do quite a number. I was lucky. I got depressed but never to the point of thinking about ending my life. I did have trouble with Meds though because I had something causing my G.A.D. the doctors weren't catching and it made taking antidepressants impossible.

I'm a Christian by The Grace of GOD. But I do not buy into any notion that once you accept Christ your life is all sweet and happy followed by everything goes right. It means to me that Christ is there. He's there in the good and the bad and I've seen a lot of both. I've seen enough prayers answered I've prayed for answers when medical science had no answers to know GOD answers them.

At one point in my life I went through more emotional trauma in six months then many persons go through in ten years or maybe their life. I've been so mind numbed at one point I didn't care if I got hit by a truck as in no feeling for anyone anymore. It wasn't my own doing that got me through it. I give GOD the credit. A hopeless situation changed into a life direction change which was a very positive one despite the pain.

The human brain chemistry under duress can distort many problems and make them look like there is no resolution. That monster likes to work on a person when they are tired both physically and mentally.

I see the medicines and treatments available today as miracles in themselves. Depression for many means life long treatment by those who understand how it actually works. Sometimes I think one of the best therapies for ourselves Christ Himself practiced which is stepping out of our daily lives and seeking a place of mental and physical rest as He did.

67 posted on 02/26/2011 11:12:55 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

And, in many cases, I believe its their religion that messed them up. Priests and preachers are NOT mental health counselors, they don’t know (nor should they) about how the brain and the body chemicals work. Depression is real, Pharmacology works, counseling works. Keep religion out of the mix, it harms some people as much as it helps some.


70 posted on 02/26/2011 11:17:53 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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To: cva66snipe

I appreciate your experience, and am very happy that you were able to get quality help and what you needed to pull you out. For me, non belief in God helps me, I became so much more reliant on myself. I don’t judge others on what works for them. What works works!

I have so much respect for mental health practitioners and organizations like NAMI, we have come so far in the last 30 years to treat the depressed and to remove the stigmas behind mental illness. Its an illness, like cancer or heart disease, but it affects our brain and how we interact and think. Its a tough road for those who are mentally ill, so much more for the severely mentally ill who I worked with, they used to be in an institution, now they can have a meaningful life. Science has made the advances to improve the lives of so many people.


74 posted on 02/26/2011 11:29:10 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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