Posted on 02/26/2011 10:21:36 AM PST by Natural Law
UnBiblical idolatrous nonsense.
Quix wrote:
“UnBiblical idolatrous nonsense.”
Really? That was a direct quote from:
Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326
It would appear that some see blood in the water and the circling of the sharks has begun.
LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED.
"Goofy" and "nasty" are in the eyes of the beholder.
The rules work just find when abided by.
Threads like this make it ever more apparent that some Roman Catholics do not want ANY FR Religion Forum. And we know why...
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." -- John 3:19
In order for something to be “making it personal” on the Religion Forum, it has to be speaking of another Freeper, personally.
If a poster said “Protestants are heretics” that would not be making it personal. But if he said “You are a heretic” that would be making it personal. If he said “Scientologists are crazy” that would not be making it personal, but if he said “You are crazy” that would be making it personal.
Most all ad hominems (which are also logical fallacies, btw) are “making it personal” - attacking the Freeper-messenger instead of the message, reading his mind, attributing motives to him, etc.
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Do not challenge on thread.
Do NOT disturb a caucus to make a challenge.
Thank you. will do.
If it makes you feel any better, Quix, I’m glad you are not under “Roman control.”
Ok Guys:
My first point, I have no problem with Caucus threads. It seems to me that the “Sola Scriptura” caucus has been used to sort of use stealth to go after other groups. I specifically note a “Sola Scriptura” Caucus whereby the OP [I don’t remember who it was] made a thread/linked an article which called for American Protestants to bring “Christianity to Egypt” which is historical nonsense. The article pointed out that about 10% of Egyptians are affiliated with the Coptic Orthodox Church, which is an historic Apostolic Church just as the Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox is, but it implied that these Copts were not real Christian. Well, they sure seem to be willing to die for Christ as just the other day the some Milatary went to a Coptic Monastic Community and shot them up!.
That was not a caucus thread, in my view. So, my thinking is that Protestants should be able to make a thread about “Sola Scriptura” and write an article about it that makes the arguments for it [even though I believe that position has absolutely no merit and was never taught by anyone till Luther]. Nevertheless, someone with good writing skills should be able to articulate the principles of “sola scriptura” without stating for example the Catholic Church is wrong as it does not accept “sola scriptura”
The same thing for example regarding how Protestants view Justicfication. Just state your theological view. I 100% believe that Catholics can set up a caucus thread and state our theological positions without ever mentioning Protestantism, the Orthodox can do the same. For example, if I wanted to start a Caucus thread on the Trinity, Christ and Christological doctrines, such as the hypostatic union, Christ as being consubstantial with the Father, Christ and the Incarnation, the Sacraments, Mary and the Saints, I could do so strictly from Sacred Scripture and Holy Tradition [Church Fathers, Councils and Liturgy of the Church] and never specifically mention “anything about any Protestant group or sect”.
There are a group of posters here who love nothing else but to get into tit for tats. They live for it which leads me to make a post that is more directed at Quix than either you Regulator Country or you Xzins as I have seen enough of your posts to know that you two do not fall into the group that I mentioned above.
Quix:
Your statement that I am demanding that Protestants lable there particular group or community. I demanded nothing, I made a suggestion. My view is that if a Calvinist, Reformed, Congregationalist, Baptist, Pentecostal, Mega-Church, Dispensationalist-Rapture group, labeled threads as such, it would actually clean up the board as I can tell you that I would stay the heck out of it and not even bother to read “any of them” as there is nothing in any of those traditions that interest me. Again, as long as the thread is positing its theological position on questions and doesnt do it as a comparison against the Catholic Church, or Orthodox, then go for it.
Why are you afraid of in doing so? that is my question to you. So lets assume that you “Quix” start a thread that is about the “rapture” and eschatological questions and you write about it only from the local Church that you go to, which is lets assume the First Church of “something” somewhere in the Smokey mountains of Tennessee, or the First Church of something in rural Missisippi, Georgia, etc. [and no, I am not asking for the town and location of your local community, just the theological/historical affiliation] and again, you don’t call the Catholic position heretical and Catholics heretics, then I can 100% assure you that I will never show up in “ANY of THOSE” [emphasis, not yelling] threads and I can also assure you that none of my Fellow Catholics here on FR or our close brothers in Christ from the Eastern Othodox Church will either.
So again, just as you posed that question to me, I will close with this question again, Why are you afraid of doing so? Maybe, and this is just my opinion, are you worried that the thread will be lonely?
dangus:
well, in the words of 60’s Motown star, Smokey Robinson, “I second that emotion”
Thanks for restating your well designed rules.
And thanks tons for herding cats so well with them.
We don’t expect other mods, particularly seemingly new ones to be up to you usual standards but it is nice when they get the time and make the effort to learn the basics of your criteria.
Very perceptive of you to figure out that I might be a bit katty wumpus of a character in the average RC parish.
Actually, I tend to be quite supportive of proper spiritual authority and group functioning. I much prefer peace making in such a context.
However, when critical truth issues are at stake, I can be pretty fierce.
For me it is principle and wisdom vs fear.
Far too much is known about me already. Jihadi’s are far too close in a list of ways . . . I don’t need to make their murderousness easier by the slightest degree.
It’s that simple.
Do I lie awake worried about a murderous jihadi axe in the middle of the night. No.
Neither do I want to increase the ease with which they could pull it off. Their property is alarmingly close.
And that doesn’t even begin to get into my China associations.
On principle—conservatives are about privacy. One would think that truly conservative RC’s would have an easier time supporting that vs relentlessly badgering to find out such details. Sheesh.
yeah, that’s what I meant
(/sarc)
yeah, that’s what I meant
(/sarc)
Quix:
Well Quix, It seem that you must have a milatary background or you go to boards where milatant Chinese Communist or Islamic radicals post if you fear for your life.
And for the record, I never would ask for the location of where someone lives as you and I are in agreement about “nuts” on the internet perhaps finding out where a person lives.
Again, not what I was asking [I never demanded anything]. My contention was simply that Protestants label more caucuses by “theological Tradition” or the “Historic Protestant tradition” from where there particular strand of Protestantism evolved from [e.g., Reformed, Congregationalist and Presbyterian all share Calvinist theology, but have different structures of organization, Pentecostals come in a huge variety of stripes so one use the broad label as Pentecostal with some Baptist theology, etc, etc]
That was all that I was suggesting and again “never would I suggest someone” post where they live.
They can’t burn us at the stack, so they want to get rid of the printing press.
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