Posted on 02/25/2011 1:24:39 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
>>Actually, when you say that there’s something in an article and it turns out not to be true but you continue to claim it, then it WOULD be your job to prove your point.<<
Here are my posts to you.
Friday, February 25, 2011 8:35:53 PM 50 of 80
CynicalBear to what’s up
>>The original city (Damascus) is still destroyed.<<
Show me from scripture where. Remember that it had to remain a place where sheep grazed.
Friday, February 25, 2011 9:03:47 PM 52 of 80
CynicalBear to what’s up
Just go read the site that was posted in 33. Youre going to lose that argument with most people.
Friday, February 25, 2011 9:28:55 PM 59 of 80
CynicalBear to what’s up
Maybe scanning has been your problem? Dont be angry with me if I dont put a lot of stock in the opinion of someone who only scans.
Friday, February 25, 2011 9:50:35 PM 66 of 80
CynicalBear to what’s up
Nah, I find that once someone has made up there mind its pretty much made up.
Friday, February 25, 2011 10:56:05 PM 78 of 80
CynicalBear to what’s up; circlecity; GiovannaNicoletta
>>and I’m waiting for you to prove your point.<<
Thats not my job. You see, when it comes to God talking to people, His Holy Spirit is the one that speaks to the heart. I could never do that. I find that when I try to convince someone of something I get in Gods way. When God has someone in a place Im not going to take that person out of it. Im supposed to just introduce the concept. Just ask Him to point you in the right path and He will always take you where you need to be. He knows better where you need to be. Id just get in His way.
Now, would you please tell me in which one of those I said there’s something in an article that turned out not to be true? Its becoming obvious to me that your excuse of scanning is really covering a problem with either reading or reading comprehension.
Your implication was that the article would address my "argument".
When I pointed out that I didn't see my argument addressed you implied that it was an issue of "scanning" rather than posting the actual information from the article which would address my argument, even though you had ample opportunity to do so.
Disingenuous to say the least.
My implication? My implication? You have got to be kidding ..or delusional .or completely projecting your thoughts into someone elses writing. Read my statement again.
Just go read the site that was posted in 33. Youre going to lose that argument with most people.
Do you see the most people in there? My implication was that most people read that and begin to see something different then your take on the subject. I could care less what your argument is. I was pointing to why people believe what they believe. You have convinced me that its your reading comprehension.
Yes, that is fairly clear now.
My implication was that most people read that and begin to see something different then your take on the subject
Really? When the point I made is not even addressed in the article? Doubt it.
Youre going to lose that argument
Why even point me to a site that doesn't address "that argument"? Strange.
Thank you, Almighty Religion Moderator. We adore your greatness.
Yeah. Okay. I need the date when the Isaiah 17 prophecy was fulfilled and I also need the Scripture where God says that once that prophecy has been fulfilled and Damascus was a "ruinous heap", deserted, with animals living there, with the city completely ceasing to exist, that it would then be rebuilt several times, and people would continue to live there. I need that Scripture and the date when Damascus ceased being a city for you to have any credibility.
This is in no way "Bible-denying" no matter how many times you sneer and contemptuously ridicule. This is not "twisting" Scripture as you claim. On the contrary, it is a clear reading of the text...it seems that YOU may be be the one twisting here. It is a fact that the Damascus OF THAT DAY is now under the soil in ruins. Sorry, to burst your fact-denying bubble, but that is true.
As long as you can't give me the date when Damascus was destroyed, uninhabited, and ceased being a city, since the Bible tells us that this will be a specific and momentous event, and as long as you can't give me the Scripture which tells us that Damascus will be destroyed, and deserted but will be rebuilt several times, then you are denying and re-defining Scripture and have no credibility. Simple as that.
And other Bible translators didn't know Hebrew? Gimme a break.
Yeah, other Bible translators didn't know Hebrew. Here's a few examples in the KJV alone:
I'll stick with what the native speakers say the verse should be.
That particular translation could very well be the reason why Damascus is destroyed.
There is also this passage in Amos:
"...For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof..." (Amos 1:3)
That Scripture in Amos is frequently referenced concerning the coming judgment on Damascus. Many are aware that Syria has attacked Israel in three major wars since Israel became a nation again in 1948:
Could it be that Syria will actually attempt a 4th time to do great harm to Israel and in turn be dealt this extreme judgment from the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob?
With Iranian warships docked in Syria now, and Syria giving missiles to Hezbollah, and terrorists training in Syria - it would appear that Syria is readying itself for another war with Israel.
This could also be the reason Damascus is destroyed - like Amos wrote - four strikes and they're out.
The prophecy about the Abomination of Desolation is a perfect example.
The Abomination of Desolation occurred in 168 BC, not 70 AD, and the Greek Emperor Antiochus Epiphanes was in charge. It is a model of what will happen again in the mid-point of the Tribulation.
The event itself will be recognized because of its similarity to its first occurrence. Thats the purpose of dual fulfillment. The first fulfillment is always incomplete and confirms the fact that another fulfillment is coming. The first fulfillment is called a partial fulfillment for that reason. There are a dozen or more prophecies that either have already had dual fulfillments or will have.
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