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To: MHGinTN
The Catholic Church is an institution run by men, all kinds of men, and it is not THE Chruch Jesus is returning for some day. You’re big on ‘giving what the church says’ you are supposed to believe regarding scriptures, but there are so many man-made tenents where do you draw the line?

All kinds of men and apartment owner as well?

... With you, you don’t draw a line, you just swallow it all and tell us ‘the church’ is the authority.

I posted here the Scripture that gives the authority of the Church as given by Jesus. Men alone are like the Eunuch - staring blindly at the words; or else like the first millennium heretics - making it all up as they go along.

And if you doubt what I’m telling you, doa word study of the origins of ‘Lucifer’ in Old Testament translations. [HINT: was invented in second century AD when translating Isaiah 14, not found in the original texts; a whole mythos on Lucifer as satan has been invent over the centuries.]

Certainly, the Church massaged the original books into the form that you wave around now. Matthew 28:19 (the Trinitarian formula), and the Comma Johanneum (to emphasize the Trinitarian formula) were not inserted into Scripture until late second or early third century, as well. And numerous other examples. So, does that mean that you will reject that Bible in your hand, which is created by the authorized men of the Church?

640 posted on 02/25/2011 6:03:27 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr
"So, does that mean that you will reject ..." Frankly, you asking me anything regarding my faith and which texts I reject or read for God's instruction is a bit like Linus's blanket in Pigpen's hands ... Even your posted response was so stilted as to ignore any perspective which doesn't have the 'only the catholic church has authority' directive.

THE Church is a spiritual entity bought with Christ's blood, not your institution of higher twisting. The powerful institution known as the Church of Rome may have you believing only they have authority with God's Grace, but you're mistaken to count on that.

It might come as a shock to you, but God can even keep His instruction clear through the morass of Catholic heirarchy adulterations of His written word. I believe His Spirit instructs directly through His Word and the texts focused upon His Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. I read the second century Latin texts of the Tanakh despite use of the phrase which lead to the name Lucifer, because I believe the translator was being led by The Spirit not the Roman directives, despite his being a Roman Catholic Priest. [Luther was a Roman Cathoic Priest also. You'd like to burn him however since he rebelled against the sludge level rising in your institution. I happen to revere John Paul ... haven't made up my mind on Ratsinger yet. John Paul was a 'servant of the Cross, more than the director of your instituion. That makes him my brother in Christ. How about you?]

645 posted on 02/25/2011 6:21:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"So, does that mean that you will reject ..." Frankly, you asking me anything regarding my faith and which texts I reject or read for God's instruction is a bit like Linus's blanket in Pigpen's hands ... Even your posted response was so stilted as to ignore any perspective which doesn't have the 'only the catholic church has authority' directive.

THE Church is a spiritual entity bought with Christ's blood, not your institution of higher twisting. The powerful institution known as the Church of Rome may have you believing only they have authority with God's Grace, but you're mistaken to count on that.

It might come as a shock to you, but God can even keep His instruction clear through the morass of Catholic heirarchy adulterations of His written word. I believe His Spirit instructs directly through His Word and the texts focused upon His Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. I read the second century Latin texts of the Tanakh despite use of the phrase which lead to the name Lucifer, because I believe the translator was being led by The Spirit not the Roman directives, despite his being a Roman Catholic Priest. [Luther was a Roman Cathoic Priest also. You'd like to burn him however since he rebelled against the sludge level rising in your institution. I happen to revere John Paul ... haven't made up my mind on Ratsinger yet. John Paul was a 'servant of the Cross', more than the director of your instituion. That makes him my brother in Christ. How about you?]

646 posted on 02/25/2011 6:22:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MarkBsnr

BTW, you can keep the extra “n” in ‘tenents’ typed by my tired old fingers. You might even need it some where/when when you make a mistake. Arrogance has an “n” in it, not that you’d notice something so close to your persona.


648 posted on 02/25/2011 6:31:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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