Father of hit Mormon family piano group accused of sex abuse by his own daughters

UK Daily Mail ^ | Feb. 17, 2011

[Colofornian]

• The 5 Browns musicians waive anonymity in claims against their father
• He drives his Porsche off 300ft Utah cliff just days after charges are filed
• But he miraculously survives crash... and is now facing life in prison

The father of five siblings who make up internationally renowned piano group The 5 Browns has been accused of sex abuse by his own daughters.

Keith Brown was charged on February 10 with one first-degree count of sodomy on a child, and two second-degree counts of sexual abuse of a child, Salt Lake City court records show.

Just days later his Porsche plunged off a 300ft embankment as he returned from a ski resort on Valentine's Day with his wife Lisa.

Brown, 55, was driving, and wife Lisa, 54, the mother of the children, was in the passenger seat. The couple had been driving home from a ski resort when the accident occurred.

They were both knocked unconscious, but Brown woke up and managed to dial 911. The cause of the crash remains under investigation, but police said speed was a factor.

SNIP

Court documents state the allegations stem from separate occasions between November 1990 and October 1992, November 1990 and November 1992 and March 1997 and March 1998 in Utah County.

Mr Thomson said the Brown women severed their professional relationship with Keith Brown in October of 2008. He was once the manager of The 5 Browns but now has no connection to the group...

[SaraJohnson]

These kind of perverts who hide behind the purity of God or the wholesomeness of education or the boy scouts, commit a horrible offense against their child victims. When the victims are not healed, they see God or standards of goodness as a joke and they reject it with avengence.

See Scott Brown.

[Paragon Defender]

Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their forner Church.

Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 

[Paragon Defender]

Colo now says you are “defending” the bad guys because you point out his obssesion of being anti-Mormon. He did the same thing to me.

Par for the course. Insinuate this, misdirect that.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Links for mormons who would like information from
outside the official mormon sources to be objective

http://www.irr.org/mit/default.html

http://www.exmormonsforjesus.org/

http://4mormon.org/ex-mormon.php

http://www.exmormon.org/

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Insinuate this, misdirect that.”

Colofornian didn’t insinuate or misdirect anything.
He just stated his opinion - clearly.

Yet you are attributing motive to him, which requires both mind-reading and making it personal.

Naughty PD. Naughty.

[svcw]

And your links to unofficial lds sites have what to do with this pervert and what he did to his daughters?

[svcw]

No this is about a pervert. Does it bother you, what the the person is lds and a pervert or that someone pointed out that the pervert is lds?
Either way he is a pervert and needs jail time, with a tattoo on his forward saying child rapists.

[svcw]

Where is your condemnation of this pervert? Rather than attack the poster, attack the pervert.

[svcw]

Where is your condemnation of this pervert? Rather than attack the poster, attack the pervert.

[Colofornian]

There's an anti-Mormon group of people...attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

Well, let's see, who have I "attacked" here?

I've called this Mormon dad a "perp" -- per the allegations of his daughters, whom I'm sure have thought of worst names than that for him.

(Does that make these female victims "anti-Mormon," too?)

ALL: We can see one thing here: PD feels the need to rise to the defense of this perpetrator? Why, PD?

Obviously, by labeling this as an "anti-Mormon" thread, you've already determined that you need to protect the group identity of this perpetrator.

Rather than choosing the angle of defense as "Well, he's just an isolated individual who claims he's 'Mormon,' you've obviously included him as part of the group that you apparently now concede that this story is about." (Otherwise, why rise to defend the group?)

Nobody else even need argue the point that this man's first identity is Mormon; PD has already established that concession of a foundation for us.

[Colofornian]

One must wonder if the perp tried to kill himself and his wife....Such good neighbors....just great people...

When you look @ the pix of the Porsche [@ the Daily Mail Web site], you'll see it wasn't just a normal "leaving-the-victims-unconscious" type of crash].

...Such good neighbors....just great people...

And this stuff's making the UK headlines...which is also read widely in other parts of Europe -- and even in parts like Hong Kong, Taiwan & parts of Africa.

[Colofornian]

Yet you are attributing motive to him, which requires both mind-reading and making it personal. Naughty PD. Naughty.

Update from today: 5 Browns Dad Pleads Guilty to Sexually Abusing Famous Daughters -- posted by OldDeckHand.

Plus, Sleeping Freeper posted this article on Tuesday: Father of The 5 Browns faces sex abuse charges

Paragon Offender & JimT -- I didn't see any comments from you on either of these two threads. Why not?

Aren't you both going to accuse those FREEPERS of being "anti-Mormon" as well? PD, where are your links on those threads defending Mormonism? -- as if confessed incest was "Mormonism" to begin with?

Can I take for granted then, PD, and JimT, that since you didn't accuse either OldDeckHand or Sleeping Freeper of some "anti-Mormon screed," that you attribute motive to me but not to them. Isn't that against FR policy? Or do you flaunt the borders of policies, PD, just because you think you're going to be a god some day?

From Mormon-church owned KSL: Brown will be sentenced March 31 at 10 a.m. Prosecutors will recommend that he spend 10 years to life in prison...All of the girls were 13 or younger when the incidents occurred, Shapiro said.

So this Mormon guy commits incest with his daughters (not sure if 2 or 3 victims) over two periods totaling three years' time, and he may only get 10 years' time...perhaps only a little only three years per victim???

Mormon Utah "justice???"

Tell us, PD, what's your "take" on this guy?

[svcw]

Hopefully it will be life. What a flipping creep. Maybe the general population in the prison will know he raped his daughters.

[Colofornian]

Hopefully it will be life. What a flipping creep. Maybe the general population in the prison will know he raped his daughters.

I'm aware of incest perps who won't get out. I haven't seen anything about this 55 yo that indicates he's "Mormon worthy" of an exception.

[jimt]

...and become the advocate-defender of a child sexual incest pervert -- as you've done...

No where have I defended or advocated for the pervert, and no where would I.

And on the RC question, I have defended the religion when all the pervert-priest business was floating around. Tarring all Catholics with that brush is stupid, rude and... Oh, well.

I have interrupted your three-minutes-hate, however. So I can understand you're upset.

[Paragon Defender]

Well, let’s see, who have I “attacked” here?

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Puleeze. Take the almost daily onslaught into account. I suspect you might think so but I assure you I am not stupid.

[jimt]

Be vewy vewy amazed..

Your logic is as good as your spelling.

There is NOTHING in Mormon doctrine that would support this perversion. The perp, if unrepentant, would be excommunicated.

[Paragon Defender]

PD feels the need to rise to the defense of this perpetrator?

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I did nothing of the sort. This time or the last time you accused me of it. Shame on you for such underhanded and blatant nasty tactics.

Your obsessiveness is glaring again.

[jimt]

So out of 13.8 million church members, there are a whole dozen stories ?

Nothin' like slandering a whole group over a one-in-a-million occurence, is there ?

[jimt]

Par for the course.

Bingo !

Sometimes I get very tired of it. There was another thread on this singing scumbag, that described his crime but of course didn't pimp the Mormon angle.

Naturally it was unsuitable for today's three-minute-hate.