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To: marshmallow

I think we run the risk of just going along with everything just because the Pope made a prudential judgment about something. Popes aren’t infallible in their prudential judgments, and I think this has been a blind spot for them over the recent decades. As I explained above, I think there’s a definite disconnect between the orthodoxy of many who are attached to and/or sympathetic with the charismatic movement inside the Catholic Church, and the questionable, at the very least, orthopraxy of these charismatic “worship” services.


29 posted on 02/17/2011 9:25:05 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
I think we run the risk of just going along with everything just because the Pope made a prudential judgment about something. Popes aren’t infallible in their prudential judgments, and I think this has been a blind spot for them over the recent decades.

Careful, now. Getting into the business of cherry-picking papal prudential judgments can be dangerous. Many have gone down that road and come to grief. That's why we're Catholics, isn't it? His "prudential judgments" guide the Church. If we're not comfortable with that, then we're staring into the wide world of Protestantism.

You "run a risk" no matter whose judgment you go along with, including your own.

If the Pope's words and writings require your approval, then you are the Pope, right?

Don't go there.

38 posted on 02/17/2011 9:47:51 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Pyro7480

I have very good friends while they are charismatic, which is praising God and receiving gifts of the Holy Spirit, they are VERY ORTHODOXY. They go to Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, confession regularly, very disciplined Christians and good Catholics striving for Holiness with the help of our Lord. Some people in these groups just learn about the Holy Spirit and pray, then there are some who are different. I went to a healing service which was praying over people by a healer, people would come up front with a line going across the front of the church and then each would be prayed over. Now when I watched people going down on the floor it was like whoa, slain in the spirit they called it! Then my husband and his friend and myself went up front to be prayed over I kept my eye on the Nun near me and my husband next to me. All these people were going down but I was skeptical and was afraid this was not of God. Everyone in the line went down but me! When she prayed over me I felt a tremendous sensation but I would not let myself go down to the floor, I was discerning. My friend at the time was going blind and that is why we went to the healing service. Neither one of us went down, she got freaked and never went up to be prayed over which is why we were there. So she talked me into going the next night. I prayed before going up there and told the Lord if this is not from you I am not going down so it is up to you. My friend and I were the first to go up and she prayed over me first, I had my feet planted saying it’s up to you Lord, bam next thing I know I was looking up off the floor. It’s hard to explain the feeling because we have to be careful with our emotions that we can allow ourselves to get caught up with but it was a sense of calm, excitement and energy afterward. I do believe in the power of the Holy Spirit especially in the action of the Mass giving us the Holy Eucharist. I cannot speak for others that is not my place but I stay constant in striving for trusting in Jesus for all things.


61 posted on 02/17/2011 12:05:25 PM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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