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SAINTHOOD FOR POPE JOHN PAUL II? NOT A PRAYER!
Philadelphia Magazine ^ | 15 Feb 2011 | Chris Freind

Posted on 02/15/2011 10:31:34 AM PST by grace522

It is incomprehensible that in light of those crises, the Catholic Church would respond by fast-tracking the late Pope John Paul II for sainthood, since so many sins occurred under his watch.

If John Paul’s beatification --- part of the path to sainthood--- takes place as scheduled on May 1, it will have been the fastest in history, thanks to Pope Benedict XVI, who waived the requirement of a five-year waiting period after a person’s death for that process to begin.

I’m sorry, but what planet are these folks living on…Uranus?

One way or another, Pope John Paul is complicit in the scandal; he’s either responsible or irresponsible for what occurred on his watch.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.phillymag.com ...


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To: piytar

“As a human, a parent, and yes, a faithful Catholic, I implore the Church, for God’s sake, to end the preying, and start the praying. After all, it’s the most Catholic thing to do.”

For some reason, I have to wonder if this guys is a “faithful Catholic”, as he claims.

LOL, please.


21 posted on 02/15/2011 11:48:11 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Because it is more about the crime of institutionalized pedophilia than religion.

Not everything ecclesiastic people do belongs in religion.

The article was posted where it properly belongs.

John Paul II took the actions he took. At this point the documentation is pouring out. He did some wonderful things, but also some horribly deplorable things which can not be excused or sanitized.

At this point, the catholic church can not separate the good things from the man who ordered that information of sexual crimes against children not be reported to Government authorities, and also did not make things right for all the victims.

That Legacy can not be hidden at this point.

The same man that helped free Poland from the Soviet Block did an awful, awful thing.

22 posted on 02/15/2011 12:02:24 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: MrEdd

“but also some horribly deplorable things which can not be excused or sanitized.”

Please show the credible links that support your charge that he did “horribly deplorable things”.


23 posted on 02/15/2011 1:26:24 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: grace522
Looks to me like he did a pretty good job; long before the media ever got wind of the battle, he had won the war.


24 posted on 02/15/2011 5:03:12 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

What is their definition of an “Iccident”?


25 posted on 02/15/2011 5:50:15 PM PST by verdugo
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To: dangus

What is that graph’s definition of an “Incident”?


26 posted on 02/15/2011 5:51:47 PM PST by verdugo
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To: ReverendJames

The books that Luther stripped from the Bible, Books and Scripture that were present, in the Jewish Temples, at the time of Jesus, the Books of Maccabees, clearly did support the practice of praying for the dead, as well as the practice of asking the dead to pray for the living.


27 posted on 02/15/2011 6:00:48 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

What has the Apocrypha to do with glorifying God or Jesus? When the Bible was put together it incorporated just those books. Why pray for the dead? One verse from Maccabees about praying for the dead gave the Roman Catholic Church Purgatory. Why bother to repent of our sins in this life and have Purgatory to endure in the next? Did Jesus save us? Has baptism saved us? If not then what was Jesus’ sacrifice for us worth? He died in vain if we have to endure this Purgatory. And if we were to pray for those in Purgatory, how much more are our prayers worth than those in torment? We’d wind up there too.


28 posted on 02/15/2011 6:37:31 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames

So, in your book, the man who lives a horrible life but then repents before death goes to Heaven.

However, the man who lives a very good life, for most of his time on Earth, but then dies while in the act of sin, that man goes to Hell with no recourse?

My God is more just and fair, than that.


29 posted on 02/15/2011 6:47:46 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Ah, Nope. Didn’t say that. What is sin? What does the word actually mean? I didn’t say that the man who sins before death goes to Hell without recourse. In the Roman Catholic Church Hell is different from Purgatory. You have a chance of getting out of Purgatory with the prayers of the living according to Maccabees. I’m saying that it’s the Grace of God and your belief in Jesus that saves you. Think of the parable of the vineyard workers. The wages are the same regardless of what time you showed up for work.


30 posted on 02/15/2011 7:04:41 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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