[Rashputin]

Let’s get really clear, we’re talking about what is required of us for Salvation, not ‘how we are Saved’.

Grace alone. His Grace. My Faith without His Grace is nothing at all, dust in the wind.

Now, what, is Faith works, Calvinism, ... ?

[CynicalBear]

>>Let’s get really clear, we’re talking about what is required of us for Salvation, not ‘how we are Saved’.<<

Here’s the quote:

the baptism IS the means through which the Holy Spirit saves. Remember -- at the end of it all, it is the grace of God that saves us, provided by the Holy SPirit, yet the means are WATER AND SPIRIT

Phil. 3:9, "and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith."

Through faith, not through baptism. It is faith that is required.

[CynicalBear]

>>Now, what, is Faith works<<

“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” John 6:28-29