Ah, another member of my Futurist Rogues’ Gallery. Prophecy pimps one and all.
Posted on 02/12/2011 6:20:06 PM PST by topcat54
The replacementarians all forget the letter to the Philadelphian church.
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>> “The Seven Churches of Asia were, or would soon be, at the time of John’s writing, centers of the cult of emperor worship.” <<
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Read the letter to the Philadelphian church, and then repent of your attack on the word of God.
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This is a bit better posting of Dr Randall Price’s article:
http://www.raptureready.com/featured/price/4rp.html
According to the scrolls, the present age was also to see the imminent visitation of Elijah as the precursor of Messiah (4Q521) and the advent of the Messiah. The Messiah of the Dead Sea Scrolls is clearly eschatological. His coming is at “the end of days,” and is royal (Davidic), priestly (Aaronic), and prophetic (Mosaic) in nature. It may be that the sect envisioned two or three messiahs, and such interpretive confusion is understandable in light of the developing messianism of Second Temple Judaism. Nevertheless, the application of Old Testament messianic texts in the Scrolls appears to have predominately combined the messianic offices in one person, and this is the Jewish theology reflected in the Gospels (cf. Matt. 2:4-6; 22:42; Mk. 14:61; Lk. 2:25-38; 3:15; Jn. 6:14; 7:27, 31; 12:34).
After the Messiah had defeated all of Israel’s enemies, and slain the wicked (the correct interpretation of 4Q285) in the great 40 year (Gog and Magog) war (cf. 1QM; 4QpIsaa 7-10; 22-25; 4QpIsab 2:1; 4Cantenab 3:7-8), at the Day of the Lord (4Q558), a time of redemption would come with a universal peace; men would live a thousand generations, evil would be destroyed, and an ideal world will come about. The sect apparently expected to build an interim Third Temple in Jerusalem at some point and had blueprints preserved in a Temple Scroll (11QT). Perhaps the means to build this Temple was to be funded from a vast treasure (considered Temple treasure), which they hidden throughout the Land. The locations for this treasure they preserved with a catalogue of items on a Copper Scroll (3Q15). They also held that a final Temple (the “New Temple”) would be built by Messiah for the Age to Come (cf. Zech. 6:12-13).
One problematic characteristic of their eschatology was their conviction that the precise dates of prophetic events could be determined. They believed that their “Teacher of Righteousness” was inspired by the Holy Spirit to properly discern the hidden timetable of the Last Days. Just as Daniel had reinterpreted Jeremiah’s prophecy of the seventy-year exile (Jer. 25:1) to encompass the greater “seventy weeks of years” (Dan. 9:24-27), so the “Teacher of Righteousness” reinterpreted various prophetic passages from the Old Testament and reapplied them to the situation of his day. Based on this method of interpretation, they expected the coming of the Messiah would take place between 3 B.C.E. and 2 A.D. When their predictions failed, the Community seems to have not attempted further calculations, but apparently reformulated their earlier expectations to accommodate a divine postponement or delayed judgment, although some may also have adopted a more militaristic posture that saw the urgent need for intervention to bring about the next age.
The Dead Sea Scrolls offer to us a window into the eschatological world-view of Jesus and the New Testament. Their eschatology followed a literal interpretation of prophetic texts, a numerological calculation of temporal indicators in judgment pronouncements, and understood a postponement of the final age while not abandoning their hope of it. In many ways their eschatology was not dissimilar from modern Christian premillennialism, and reveals that as a system of interpretation, premillennialism is more closely aligned to the first-century Jewish context than competing eschatological systems.
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You’ve been reading Quix again? Does NPD qualify as a form of dementia?
So it seems.
Sad.
“Just think, after the Rapture and the shock wears off you won’t have anyone to criticize except, maybe, your pastor. After all, you had no idea....”
You and I can sit down and have a beer if that happens. We can debate which one of us was more wrong.
That
REPLACEMENTARIAN
HIDEOUSNESS is always soooooooooooooooooooo SWEET!
man, they really, really hate you.
Ah, another member of my Futurist Rogues’ Gallery. Prophecy pimps one and all.
Does your friend the prophecy pimp understand that the DSS are not canonical Scripture and have no knowledge of Jesus Christ or apostolic teaching? They are in keeping with the views of the first century apostate Jews who misinterpreted biblical eschatology and rejected Messiah Jesus.
The Dead Sea Scrolls offer to us a window into the eschatological world-view of Jesus and the New Testament.
No they don’t. This is a perversion of the truth written by one desperate to find any shred of evidence for his aberrant views before JN Darby’s bombshell “discovery” in 1830. It ain’t gonna happen.
You still searching of an original source for that bogus claim about the “rapture” in the DSS? Or have you given up on that fraud?
Nothing more, nor less than what I’ve come to expect from a denier of prophecy.
This doesn’t seem to be a problem for many futurist prophecy pimps. In fact they seem to thrive on date-setting/date-suggesting. And the unwashed masses love it. See Edgar Whisenant, Hal Lindsey, or Chuck Smith.
This guy needs ot find a clue. There are more problems than this in the theology of the DSS ... that is if the Bible is your standard rather than futurist junk theology.
Thank you for posting this. Wow, did you ever stir up a hornet’s nest. I don’t know why there should be such a hot-tempered response, since this is pretty clear in the Word. Controversy about what the Holy Spirit is saying usually indicates that somebody has a private interpretation which has become a doctrine of man (and/or demons). And the Word is clear about that, too.
Correction: denier of futurist junk prophecy.
It's not hard to spot a fraud in the futurist crowd. They prooftext Scripture, relying heavily on the OT and largely ignoring the NT. They invent hermeneutical principles on the fly depending on the prooftext they are trying to pervert to their futurist ends.
Their “scholarship” regarding the early church is abysmal, which usually involves ripping passages out of their context and using dubious sources (can you say “pseudo Ephraim?”) It also involves much plagiarism, even to the point where mistakes and gross errors are copied from one prophecy pimp to the next. Quotes are offered with no reference to the original sources and no way to fact check.
This is the system you are defending.
Why? You don’t believe this junk, do you?
I don’t know why there should be such a hot-tempered response
Because the claims are mostly fraudulent, and cannot be support by independent research.
After the Second Coming (there is no separate “rapture”), we’ll all either be in the new heavens/earth or the “lake of fire.”
They hated Jesus when He confronted them with the truth. They do not like their darkness exposed.
Their prophecy pimps can hide behind a microphone or pulpit spewing their repugnant views and going unchallenged. But when the PPs' disciples show up here, the error is exposed and open to criticism. They may not be as slick as their masters, not as quick on their feet, esp when the fraud is so painfully obvious. And so they rant, sometimes in multi-color hypertext. Like sounds emanating from a futurist loony bin.
“After the Rapture, any debating on your part is gone. “
You hope. But you aren’t sure, are you?
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