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To: CynicalBear; dartuser
Preterists like to misuse Luke 21:20-24 and say that all of Matthew 24 was a prophecy of the Roman conquest in a.d. 70.

I guess you friend didn’t get the memo. Even dispensationalists admit that Luke 21 is about Rome in AD70. And Matthew 24 is the parallel passage.

Let’s take a look at the rest of this nonsense. This is almost too easy.

1. The Temple described in Matthew 24:15 is not said to be destroyed, only desecrated

What Bible is this guy reading?

And Jesus said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down." (v. 2)
I guess he can’t figure out “literally” what it all means?

2. The Temple's desecration would be a signal for Jews to escape destruction

Same as we see in Luke 21:20ff. “Flee to the mountains,” etc. AD70 stuff.

3. The generation of Jews that are alive at the time that the Temple is desecrated will expect Messiah's coming "immediately after"

That’s just the dispensational spin. We already know he has comprehension problem with the text.

4. The text Jesus cited concerning the Temple' s desecration, Daniel 9:27,

The parallel passage in Luke 21:20 defines the abomination as being associated with “Jerusalem surrounded by armies.” AD70 stuff.

5. The time "immediately after" (Matthew 24:29) the time of the Temple' s desecration would see Israel's repentance (Matthew 24:30),

Huh?

30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
I see mourning because of impending destruction coming upon the land and the people. I do not see repentance. Probably another comprehension issue.

6. For the Temple that is desecrated, the scope is of a worldwide tribulation "coming upon the world" (Luke 21:26;

But Luke 21:26 is about AD70. It’s in the context of verse 24, “And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” More comprehension issues.

35 posted on 02/08/2011 11:24:55 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: topcat54; dartuser
>> And Jesus said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down."<<

That was the Temple He had just left, not the future on He talked about later in the chapter. The preterists would have you believe that the gospel had already been preached to all the world by 70AD.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Then in verse 15 He begins to talk about what will lead up to the time that the end shall come.

37 posted on 02/08/2011 11:49:04 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: topcat54

I find it interesting that the Dispensationalists just can’t help substituting words when the original harms their narrative.

“Destroy” = “Desecrates”
“End of the Age” = “End of the World”
“Mourn” = “Repent”
“This generation” = “This race/ethnicity of people”
“at hand/very soon” = “thousands of years from now”
“flee to hills of Judea” = “rapture into heaven”

and on, and on, and on....


57 posted on 02/09/2011 6:17:02 AM PST by The Theophilus
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