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To: verdugo

“all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy”

I have never said this, so let’s be fair here Verdugo. let’s also be fair and understand that the Eastern Catholics have not said this either.

“is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics”

Thank goodness he refers to Catholics, which include our Eastern brothers.


166 posted on 02/09/2011 9:53:39 AM PST by BenKenobi (one of the worst mistakes anybody can make is to bet against Americans.")
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To: BenKenobi

re:Thank goodness he refers to Catholics, which include our Eastern brothers.

You are in denial. The Orthodox are heretics and schismatics. They are not part of the Catholic Church.

The Eastern Rite Catholics are Catholic, like the Ruthenian Rite Catholics in the in Ukraine, or the Greek Catholics, they would find what you just wrote laughable. Learn your faith. Maybe one of them is reading this and he can enlighten you. It’s not my rite.


170 posted on 02/09/2011 10:14:20 AM PST by verdugo
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To: BenKenobi
re:Thank goodness he refers to Catholics, which include our Eastern brothers.

THE EASTERN ORTHODOX HAVE NEVER BEEN CONSIDERED CATHOLIC

The confusion that already exists in the Catholic terminology with the progressivist innovations was not enough. Now we have another source of hermeneutical pollution – the schismatics begin to call themselves “catholics". (and aberrosexuals call themselves "gay").

A Catholic, according to the classic definition of St. Robert Bellarmine, adopted by the Magisterium, is one who professes the Catholic Faith, who submits to legitimate Pastors, principally the Roman Pontiff, and shares in common the seven Catholic Sacraments. The Eastern Orthodox have never fulfill these conditions, and thus are not Catholics, but schismatics.

Additionally, for a long time prior to the Schism (1054), various precursors of the movement, among them Photius (886), defended the heresy according to which the Third Person of the Holy Trinity would not proceed from the First and the Second. Cerularius and other Schismatic Greeks also adhered to this error. Therefore, in the 11th century when the Catholic Church declared this movement schismatic, she was exercising mercy, because the normal procedure would have been to declare it heretical. Until today, the Greek and Russian schismatics defend the same error. In addition to denying this dogma, there are at least three others that are not accepted by the Greek and Russian schismatics: they are the dogmas of the Immaculate Conception, the Papal Primacy and Papal Infallibility. Therefore, in reality, for quite some time the self-proclaimed “Orthodox church” has ceased to be orthodox and has been heretical.

175 posted on 02/09/2011 11:04:16 AM PST by verdugo
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