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To: BenKenobi; armydoc
re:The unfortunate thing is that he’s incorrect. Fr. Freeney has been repudiated.

There *is* salvation outside the Church, in that God is sovereign. To say otherwise is contrary to what the church has taught since day 1.

The unfortunate thing is that you are the product of poor catechisees and you now nothing about the faith. You just declared a heresy (There *is* salvation outside the Church)and you don't even know it. With every word that you type you pronounce your ignorance of the faith.

You should really go to mass, pray, and study the faith, AND find yourself a real Catholic priest, for whoever has taught you, has not taught you the Catholic Faith.

161 posted on 02/09/2011 9:39:06 AM PST by verdugo
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To: verdugo

I’ve read Fr. Freeney’s book. I read it as a catechumen. It was very helpful to me in understanding why he was incorrect.

“You just declared a heresy (There *is* salvation outside the Church)and you don’t even know it. With every word that you type you pronounce your ignorance of the faith.”

I’m aware of the disagreement. I believe I stand on the side of the Pope and the Church in that she teaches salvation may be obtained outside of the Church as God is sovereign. He does not need the Church, anymore than he needs anything at all. He chose to found His Church. There is a difference between need and want. He wants all of us to come to him freely, but he does not need us in any way.


164 posted on 02/09/2011 9:47:54 AM PST by BenKenobi (one of the worst mistakes anybody can make is to bet against Americans.")
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