I posted that verse because I wanted to know your thoughts on it.
I have given you my points on what I believe and why I believe it respectfully and understand you have a G-d given right to believe in the manner that you do, but I think Im sure you are mistaken as to who youre allies are.
I could say the same and you yourself are suggesting the same thing that you are accusing me of. ;)
There is a dividing line being drawn in the sand in these last days. Islamic forces have vowed to destroy, namely Jews, as well as Christians.
We agree on this point.
It is sad you view my belief system with hostility and accusation, since I consider your people our greatest friend and ally and I would fight to defend Israels cause and right to the land the L-rd YHWH himself swore to your ancestors, but it was all with the intent that,
I'm not sure why you think there was hostility in my post. I gave verses to support my views, I'm sorry that you found those verses hostile.
Israel, a nation of kings and priests, would share the God of Israel to the world, not so that the nation would become an esoteric club only accessible by birth-right, but to educate the heathen on serving the Living G-d and entering a relationship with the Creator and Father of ALL humanity. Israel was given a high calling and great responsibility.
Messiah from the Hebrew
4899 mashiyach maw-shee'-akh from the root of 4886;
anointed; usually a consecrated person (as a king, priest , or saint;
specifically, the Messiah:--anointed, Messiah.
1) anointed, anointed one
a) of the Messiah, Messianic prince
b) of the king of Israel
c) of the high priest of Israel
d) of Cyrus
e) of the patriarchs as anointed kingsNow, Christ from the Greek
5547 Christos khris-tos' from the root 5548;
anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus:--Christ.
Christ = "anointed"
1) Christ was the Messiah, the Son of God
2) anointed
Notice what IS MISSING? In the Greek, there are no other options given.
Israel does share YHWH. What is sad is that some people have corrupted Hebrew Scriptures to force prophecies that allowed them to create and worship a new god. No one is keeping you or anyone else from following YHWH.
Hegesippus (circa 170AD) records that the Law and Prophets were taught until all the Apostles died off.:
... Up to that period the Church had remained like a virgin pure and uncorrupted: for, if there were any persons who were disposed to tamper with the wholesome rule of the preaching of salvation, they still lurked in some dark place of concealment or other. But, when the sacred band of apostles had in various ways closed their lives, and that generation of men to whom it had been vouchsafed to listen to the Godlike Wisdom with their own ears had passed away, then did the confederacy of godless error take its rise through the treachery of false teachers, who, seeing that none of the apostles any longer survived, at length attempted with bare and uplifted head to oppose the preaching of the truth by preaching "knowledge falsely so called." On my arrival at Rome, I drew up a list of the succession of bishops down to Anicetus, whose deacon was Eleutherus. To Anicetus succeeded Soter, and after him came Eleutherus. But in the case of every succession,14 and in every city, the state of affairs is in accordance with the teaching of the Law and of the Prophets and of the Lord.... Therefore was the Church called a virgin, for she was not as yet corrupted by worthless teaching.15 Thebulis it was who, displeased because he was not made bishop, first began to corrupt her by stealth. . . . Each of these leaders in his own private and distinct capacity brought in his own private opinion. From these have come false Christs, false prophets, false apostles-men who have split up the one Church into parts16 through their corrupting doctrines, uttered in disparagement of God and of His Christ....
From the Council of Nicea (325):(excerpted)
It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded.In rejecting their custom,(1) we may transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter, which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not, therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and more convenient course (the order of the days of the week); and consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them?
They do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such wicked people[the Jews].
That's why the church needed to change the calendar, needed to do away with the Sabbath and started Sun-day worship, in 'honor of the venerable Sun'. Why they needed to distance themselves from Passover and celebrate Easter, a name derived from the pagan godess of fertility, widely known at the time.
The church has done nearly all it could to distance themselves from the root that they 'claim' to be grafted unto. Yet, it resembles nothing of the root anymore.
The part I want to specifically point out is this: for the Saviour has shown us another way;
An actual admission that the church has deviated from 'the way' and gone after 'another way'!! And to top it off, they give credit to Yehoshua for this 'new way'. The church admits that this 'other way' is more CONVENIENT!
Sooner than you might expect, the New World order and its governments, beginning with the United States, will issue a decree to the world to accept Sunday as the official day of worship in an effort to appease the wrath that has begun to unfold upon the world through natural disaster and societal upheaval, and you and I will be forced to hold the same ground, the right to worship G-d on His appointed Holy Day, the Seventh-Day sabbath and if you and I are still alive you can remember this warning.
If I recall correctly Friday is the day of worship for Muslims. WHO started the idea of Sunday worship? You cannot blame that on the Muslims. There are plenty of other things that can be pinned on them, but pushing for Sunday worship isn't one of them.
Anything I've posted was posted in good faith. It wasn't meant to be hostile or angry. I tried my best to cite scripture and let it do the talking. Your right we are so close in our views and only differ on The Messiah. My faith is in YHWH, He is the only Savior I need and He is the One that I trust with my soul. When religion gets confusing, call on, rely on, put your trust and faith in YHWH and you cannot go wrong.
I would rather stand in front of YHWH and say that I had placed my entire faith in Him and trusted Him with my soul than stand in front of YHWH and tell Him that I trusted Yehoshua instead. Do not trust substitutes.
May YHWH bless you.
My FRiend Hope, gentiles have had access to G-d since the time of Noah by following the seven laws of Noah. And once the Law was given by conversion into the Jewish faith, (like Ruth and Jethro). It is not a birth-right or else you need Jesus situation.
Regarding the messiah. Do you know how many times the word messiah occurs in the Jewish scriptures?.....ZERO. Do you know how many time the word Mashiach appears in the Hebrew?...39. Now...how many times does the word messiah appear in the Christian OT?....2 times. Just two times? All other times in the Christian OT mashiach is translated properly as "anointed one" the 2 times it appears is in Daniel Chap 9, as The Messiah....Why is that? They are PLAYING WITH THE JEWISH SCRIPTURES....thats why. Trying to make it appear to be about Jesus.
If you were to go back to bible times and ask the man on the street where is mashiach...would they point to Jesus? No. They would ask you back..."which mashiach do you mean?" There are many! Kings are mashiach (Saul unrighteous, David righteous etc) Priests are mashiachs. Non-Jew Cyrus was a mashiach. Many mashiachs! As a matter of fact, ha mashiach, the messiah or The Anointed one, never appears even once in the hebrew!