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To: paladin1_dcs
No, but I do believe that men will recycle their weapons into peaceful pursuits, which is the correct understanding of that verse.

If your criteria are some extra-biblical notions of what the prophecy means, e.g., modern weapons in a modern setting, then it is almost impossible to get to the true biblical meaning of the text.

So again, I ask you, do you see nations recycling their arms into peaceful uses and not fighting against each other, just as the verse said?

Eventually, perhaps in several thousand years, I see the nations under the dominion of King Jesus in word and deed. King Jesus who remains firmly enthroned in heaven. As the prophet declared:

They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord As the waters cover the sea. (Isa. 11:9)
It is the gospel that will subdue the nations, and turn them from their hostility towards one another. There is nothing that requires this to be after the Second Coming.

Once Christ subdues the nations, He returns to resurrect His people, and “then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.” (1 Cor. 15:24)

There is no room in the text for a kingdom on earth post-Second Coming yet pre-eternal state.

221 posted on 02/10/2011 11:31:21 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: topcat54
I believe we are at an impasse here, as neither of us seem willing to budge in our interpretation of Scripture.

While I disagree vehemently with you about the future events that may come about, I can at least say that we agree that Christ is risen and now sits at the right hand of His Father.

May the peace of our Father go with you.

223 posted on 02/10/2011 12:28:53 PM PST by paladin1_dcs
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