[cinciella]

I’m pretty sure the “carpenter” that you are referring to would not be using language like that...especially about some of His followers. Nor would he approve of it.

[KDD]

James Madison

“We hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth that religion, or the duty which we owe our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence. The religion, then, of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man: and that it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate.”

“The civil government ... functions with complete success ... by the total separation of the Church from the State.

[topcat54]

I’m pretty sure the “carpenter” that you are referring to would not be using language like that...especially about some of His followers. Nor would he approve of it.

But he did, especially throughout the OT.

But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away. (Isa. 64:6)

The Hebrew for “filthy rags” indicates a woman’s menstrual cloth.