[carcraft]

As I said it isn't about being spared. It is about that that restrains Satan from being fully revealed,Christians and prayer, that need to be removed to allow the end of days to come! It isn't about comfort and safety. I am not sure when the “rapture” will occur, i am a pan- tribulationist-it will all pan out in the end

[carcraft]

Some of the judgementalism on this thread is amazing and the condemnation heaped on Protestants is strange. Wilberforce spent his life ending slavery, There are prostestants who face death etc. We are admonished by Jesus to keep working least the home owner comes home and finds the servants not awake. Certainly the parable of the foolish and wise virgins comes into play. I am amazed when I read about Christians and how God uses one vessel to accomplish His will. Many times that vessel was shaped and fashioned by people of simple faith but strong convictions. I try not to judge because I simply don't know. It is interesting how heated this discussion has become.

[Rashputin]

What happened with I will be with you always, even until the end of the age? Is the Holy Ghost going to be pulled out of the battle before the end of the age? You can't have it both ways. If the Holy Ghost is pulled out while there are still souls being won for Christ, then that portion of scripture is a lie and we know that's not the case.

If the Holy Ghost will remain here he will continue to be a restraint. If he isn't here to restrain, he isn't here to succor Christians, if there are no more people to be won for Christ, it is the end of the age.

Now, I recall something about the Jewish folks turning to Christ, hence, the Holy Ghost is still at work because (by the same theology that dispensationalism is built on) there can be no coming to Christ without grace and grace cannot flow without the presence of the Holy Ghost to provide the initial faith required to accept that grace.

The Rapture will not occur, it's that simple. The last trumpet is the last trumpet, not the last trumpet before the next trumpet, not the last trumpet related to this dispensation, but the last trumpet. People who honestly apply "the clear meaning of the Word" recognize that sooner or later unless they're skimming along and ignoring it all since see Christianity as just an insurance policy.

The fact is that Schofield knew good marketing sizzle when he saw it and built his sales of the public domain King James Bible on being the version with notes related to the Rapture when the Rapture was a hot new topic. As far as the "proofs" for it, they're every bit as thin and absurd as the bending over backwards Protestants do in order to deny the clear meaning of the Word as it relates to Peter.