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1 posted on 02/02/2011 6:31:31 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; BenKenobi

Ping!


2 posted on 02/02/2011 6:32:11 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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3 posted on 02/02/2011 6:36:17 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: marshmallow
It is also important that people understand that possession isn't an all or nothing proposition.

Drugs and pornography DEFINITELY lead to harassment by demonic spirits. Anyone with experience with either (or anyone with experience with those how have such experience) knows that.

4 posted on 02/02/2011 6:43:47 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I am inspired by the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt and call for the ouster of Obama!)
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Dear Wormwood,
Glad to hear you have a new subject, hope you do better this time. You couldn't have chosen a better time to start work - conditions have never been so favorable. We are never so at liberty to do as we will as when our subjects believe we don't exist. Just let him immerse himself in his modern culture and you can't fail.
Your affectionate Uncle

Screwtape

5 posted on 02/02/2011 6:56:47 AM PST by circlecity
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To: marshmallow

I wish more people understood this. Most people I know are so lost they think Jesus is in heaven, God is merely a spectator, and Satan is some kind of folklore/fairytale thing. Yikes!!!

In my house, we DO NOT even so much as check the daily horoscopes, let alone visit fortune tellers, read tarot cards, etc. And I dont allow my child to watch such garbage as “Wizards of Waverly Place” nor will she be permitted to read Harry Potter or vampire pop culture trash.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 7:10:40 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: marshmallow
My husband and I speak Spanish ( badly) but, nevertheless, we were asked by our church leaders to help with the Spanish speaking congregation in our county. To improve my Spanish I read books in Spanish with the English version of the same book as a help when I am total stuck. I have recently found that books for youth are exactly at my reading ability in Spanish.

Anyway....I was in Barnes and Noble on Saturday looking for Spanish and English literature for youth. I was greatly surprised the enormous volume and percentage of fiction devoted solely to the topic of vampires, witches, and magic driven fantasy. In the Spanish section for youth it was nearly entirely vampire and witchcraft. I bought the **only** non-vampire/witchcraft book on the Spanish literature shelf.

This must reflect the curiosity that youth have in the occult. From the covers of the books these fiction seems to be dark stuff...not many cute little red slippers there.

8 posted on 02/02/2011 7:12:27 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: marshmallow

The Catholic church has long been very dubious about the whole thing, because superstition is about as reprehensible as it gets—often a throwback to old pagan practices.

Despite the demonologies of the past, in which church scholars imagined all the details of Hell down to, literally, Hell’s pastry chef, eventually the church decided that some distinctions had to be drawn.

1) Just because something is unknown does not mean it is demonic or evil. Likewise, the unknown far tremendously outstrips the demonic by many orders of magnitude. So the assumption should be that the unknown is just unknown, until it becomes known. Not that it has evil or malign character by default.

2) The church also recognizes that mental illness is almost invariably an illness, and that almost all illness is not caused by demonic or evil forces, but are congenital and genomic, or caused by pathogens, parasites, malfunction and injury.

3) However, the church also recognizes that many are the times in our lives in which we need solace in many forms. Just because people are mistaken in the cause of their problems does not diminish their need for ministration.

4) Unfortunately, people will adopt heterodoxical or even heretical beliefs, as well as rampant superstition. But an important distinction needs to be drawn, that these are objectionable *not* because they are demonic or powerfully evil, but because they are empty and meaningless.

What is offensive is that people waste themselves, putting their faith into mindless and powerless things instead of how it should be directed, in enriching their lives and faith in what does matter.

The church recognizes that people can terribly harm themselves in the pursuit of such things. In investing the life, their hopes and desires, their strength and their character in foolish ways. It becomes like other sins, indicated more by obsession and excess than the thing in itself.

People need to eat, but if they gorge themselves they are gluttons.
It is good to procreate, but insatiable lust makes a person jaded.
Prosperity is good, but greed steals away from your life.

People need to explore the unknown, to make it part of the known. But obsession with not just the unknown, but the unknowable, saps the strength. A graven image may be worshiped all day, but it just sits there.

5) Then finally, after all that argument, there is an admission that demons exist. But claiming that from the start is a fool’s errand.


20 posted on 02/02/2011 9:55:48 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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