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The Fear of Antinomianism
Out of The Horse's Mouth ^ | Jan.27, 2011 | Michael Horton

Posted on 02/01/2011 6:37:05 PM PST by Gamecock

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1 posted on 02/01/2011 6:37:07 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...
GRPL, and a few elect others, ping!

Seems to be a lot of discussion on the distinction between the Law and the Gospel around these parts lately. Hopefully this will answer the charges.

2 posted on 02/01/2011 6:42:06 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Gamecock
" There are many today, who set aside God’s law as the standard for God’s righteous judgment "

GOD's LAW HAS NOT BEEN SET ASIDE despite of some people's theology and lies...
Jesus Christ came to completely " fulfill " and meet all of God's righteous demands of the law, and Jesus Christ fulfilled God's righteousness in us.

Those who say that God's law has been ignored or set aside by the " FREE GRACE PEOPLE " are lying and is a lie.

Romans 8 verse 1-4

1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4. That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


As far as God is concerned , those who are in Christ Jesus, those who are his own, his elect have Jesus Christ's righteousness and are already justified in Christ.... they have already meet God's laws and righteous demands.

Once again, those who claim that the FREE GRACE PEOPLE ignore or set aside the law are liars, and it is they who are preaching as Apostle Paul says " ANOTHER GOSPEL " that is not a gospel .
3 posted on 02/01/2011 6:48:56 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Gamecock

Reporting for duty, not as anti-nomian, but as necronomian.

Dead to the law.


4 posted on 02/01/2011 6:57:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Gamecock
WHEN PEOPLE REJECT AND REBEL AGAINST THE ONLY RIGHTEOUS STANDARD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT IS ONLY FOUND IN JESUS CHRIST WHO FULFILLED ALL OF GOD'S LAW ? THEY REBEL AGAINST GOD AND JESUS CHRIST AND COMMIT SIN AND ARE IN SIN !

JESUS CHRIST IS GOD'S RIGHTEOUS STANDARD AND GRACE !
5 posted on 02/01/2011 7:01:27 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Gamecock

Antinomianism is the polar opposite of legalism, the notion that obedience to a code of religious law earns salvation.

I do not let a chartered religious institution define my
relationship with God or Christ by their rules or my attendance to their building. I am saved from all sins by the sacrifice of Jesus and belief in him as the Son of God. By the way, for those not fully confident that salvation is free and we must live “sin free”, please define “sin” for me in such a way as we may then make a full list of sins of commission and omission and live my life accordingly. You will bog down in a sea of ambiguity. For example ,”Thou shalt not kill” .Does this apply in self defense? War? Accident?
Thou shalt not bear false witness? How many lies do you tell each day? “I’m fine, thank you “ when your not. “I’ll get right on it!” (when you won’t). How about stealing? Oh,
Well ,you get my drift. Why did Christ come? Because all are sinner and fall short of the glory of God!
Learn about us :http://antinomianism-salvation.blogspot.com/


6 posted on 02/01/2011 7:02:49 PM PST by Benchim
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
" Dead to the law "

But alive to JESUS CHRIST who kept the law.
7 posted on 02/01/2011 7:02:57 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Why are you screaming?


8 posted on 02/01/2011 7:08:33 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Benchim
" Antinomianism is the polar opposite of legalism, the notion that obedience to a code of religious law earns salvation. "

Are these supposed theologians right ? or is the Bible right ?

New Living Version:

Colossians 2:14

He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross.

King James:

Colossians 2:14

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The only ONE who was able to " obedience to a code of religious law earns salvation, "
was/is Jesus Christ who fulfilled all of the written code for us, so that his righteousness will be fulfilled in us.
9 posted on 02/01/2011 7:10:46 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Gamecock
Of the Law of God
1. God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which he bound him and all his posterity to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience, promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it, and endued him with power and ability to keep it.
2. This law, after his fall, continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai, in ten commandments, and written in two tables: the first four commandments containing our duty towards God; and the other six, our duty to man.
3. Beside this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a church under age, ceremonial laws, containing several typical ordinances, partly of worship, prefiguring Christ, his graces, actions, sufferings, and benefits; and partly, holding forth divers instructions of moral duties. All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated, under the new testament.
4. To them also, as a body politic, he gave sundry judicial laws, which expired together with the State of that people; not obliging any other now, further than the general equity thereof may require.
5. The moral law doth forever bind all, as well justified persons as others, to the obedience thereof; and that, not only in regard of the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God the Creator, who gave it. Neither doth Christ, in the gospel, any way dissolve, but much strengthen this obligation.
6. Although true believers be not under the law, as a covenant of works, to be thereby justified, or condemned; yet is it of great use to them, as well as to others; in that, as a rule of life informing them of the will of God, and their duty, it directs and binds them to walk accordingly; discovering also the sinful pollutions of their nature, hearts, and lives; so as, examining themselves thereby, they may come to further conviction of, humiliation for, and hatred against sin, together with a clearer sight of the need they have of Christ, and the perfection of his obedience. It is likewise of use to the regenerate, to restrain their corruptions, in that it forbids sin: and the threatenings of it serve to show what even their sins deserve; and what afflictions, in this life, they may expect for them, although freed from the curse thereof threatened in the law. The promises of it, in like manner, show them God's approbation of obedience, and what blessings they may expect upon the performance thereof: although not as due to them by the law as a covenant of works. So as, a man's doing good, and refraining from evil, because the law encourageth to the one, and deterreth from the other, is no evidence of his being under the law; and, not under grace.
7. Neither are the forementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the gospel, but do sweetly comply with it; the Spirit of Christ subduing and enabling the will of man to do that freely, and cheerfully, which the will of God, revealed in the law, requireth to be done. (Westminster Confesion of Faith, Chap. 19)

10 posted on 02/01/2011 7:19:35 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: American Constitutionalist

I think you join us. http://antinomianism-salvation.blogspot.com/ God Loved us. He saved us.He is real. Please believe that Jesus is his Son and our savior. Get away from guilt. Get away from rules . Drop to your knees and thank Father God and you will change immediately. I promise!!


11 posted on 02/01/2011 7:20:39 PM PST by Benchim
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!


12 posted on 02/01/2011 7:25:14 PM PST by Benchim
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To: Gamecock

THOSE WHO DENY THE POWER AND THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST YESHUA AND SALVATION ALONE IN JESUS CHRIST YESHUA ARE CHRIST DENIERS ! THEY ARE ANTI-CHRISTS !


13 posted on 02/01/2011 7:25:51 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Gamecock
" Why are you screaming? "
A little technicality I suppose ?

Did not GOD tell us to proclaim his message and shout it from the house tops ?
14 posted on 02/01/2011 7:28:18 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Benchim
I do not let a chartered religious institution define my relationship with God or Christ by their rules or my attendance to their building.

Are you a member of a church?

15 posted on 02/01/2011 7:29:38 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Gamecock
" Why are you screaming? "

Luke 19:40

40. He replied, I tell you that if these keep silent, the very stones will cry out.
16 posted on 02/01/2011 7:31:26 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Gamecock

A few problems, here. To start with, while Christians honor and respect Hebraic laws, statutes and judgments, technically Jesus dispensed with those (supersessionism), which is why Christians no longer follow kosher law, for example.

An argument around this is that Christians became “the new Hebrews”, so embrace the major covenants, but can disregard the statutes and judgments, which were superseded.

Jews, however, do not see Christians as having done this, so they are gentiles, and Mosaic laws, statutes and judgments never applied to them in the first place. They would even dispute that anybody else even comes under Davidic or Abrahamic law. The Muslims claim descent from Abrahamic law, which likewise the Jews would dispute.

Therefore, from their point of view, everyone else comes under the Noahide Laws, which are universal among mankind. As long as everybody follows these laws, the Jews have no problem with them, and they can do anything else they want.

So the bottom line for Christians should include familiarity with, and adherence to, those covenants through those of Jesus, those parts which he would clearly *not* supersede, as leading to a fuller understanding of which rules still apply.


17 posted on 02/01/2011 7:33:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes . Did Jesus “die” for nothing ? Did he hang on the cross for 8 hours to bleed out and suck bits air with his lungs full of fluid? FOR NOTHING? He was the Son of God who was sick of sin and sick of the loss of those He created.HE imputed righteousness to your sorry existence.He asked ONE THING-— Believe that MY son did this for you. That is it. That is all . It is over. BELIEVE!!


18 posted on 02/01/2011 7:34:36 PM PST by Benchim
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To: Lee N. Field

I am the member of Ekklesia.


19 posted on 02/01/2011 7:35:54 PM PST by Benchim
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To: Lee N. Field
" Are you a member of a church? "

The " Church " is not some worldly man made group or organization, the " Church " is the very body of Christ.
The Church is a living, breathing organism who's head is no other than Jesus Christ, not the Pope, not some multi pseudo religious group, not some religious figure who sets out demands to keep the flock under his egotistical control, no, the body, the Church belongs only to Jesus Christ.
20 posted on 02/01/2011 7:39:52 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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