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To: JohnnyM; DManA
>>Now I believe there will be a rapture, but not all Christians will be raptured. Of the seven churches in Revelation, only one is promised not to go through the tribulation.<<

First of all I said “true and faithful” not just those who call themselves Christian. Second, let’s look at what was said to those churches.

Church 1.
Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Repent or they will be removed.

Church 2.
Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. [warning them to be faithful.]

Church 3.
Revelation 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. [Again told to repent or else.]

Church 4.
Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. [Telling them that there will even be people within churches that will be cast out with some in the church who remain “faithful” will be ok.]

Get the drift of what’s happening here? There will be some whole churches who will be cast out and there will be some within churches who will be and the last church, the church in Philadelphia, is the example of the true, faithful church and where, once again, we have the promise of not having to go through the tribulation.

Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

26 posted on 02/01/2011 8:20:10 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
"First of all I said “true and faithful” not just those who call themselves Christian."

Which is why I asked for a clarification of of true and faithful? Do you agree that there are Christians who have very little fruit or who are carnal?

The letters in Revelation were sent to churches, which means they were a body of believers. Some of these churches had started mixing with the world or losing their first love, but they were believers none-the-less or else the Holy Spirit would not have referred to them as Churches.

So lets forget the true and faithful for a second. Will ALL believers be raptured?

JM
27 posted on 02/01/2011 8:44:29 AM PST by JohnnyM
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