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To: wmfights
Genesis 2

16. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

See there ? God gave man free choice before the fall.
He told Adam " of every tree of the garden you may eat ( * FREELY * )

But ? of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not ( heard that before ? shall not ? ) eat of it, in other words, no free choice, it's forbidden.

The LAW , the 10 Commandments kills, brings death, condemns, uncovers sins, condemnation , but, the spirit gives life, Jesus Christ gives life, Free Grace gives life ) ...

2 Corinthians 3 verse 4-11

4. Such confidence we have through Christ before God.
5. Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God.
6. He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

The Greater Glory of the New Covenant

7. Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was,
8. will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?
9. If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness!
10. For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory.
11. And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!


THEREFORE !!!!
THERE IS NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS !!

Romans 8

1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4. That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.



For those who mind the things after the law, human efforts, human merit mind in their natural state of the things of the flesh.

They are carnally minded, human minded and blinded.
They walk after and in the strength of their human efforts and flesh.
They are at war, enmity against GOD, for they are not subject to the law of Free Grace that is in the New Covenant, nor can they know free grace while abiding in the law blinded.
They can not please GOD in their human efforts, human works, human merits because GOD rejects it and declares it as stinking smelling rags.. i.e. their self prideful self made righteousness.
So they ? that are in the flesh, who walk after the flesh, who are not walking in faith, in free grace, can not please GOD,:

For without faith it is impossible to please GOD.


Jesus Christ IS the bread of life, there is no other one in whom we can get life here on earth, and ever lasting life.
Jesus Christ is the tree of life.

10 posted on 01/29/2011 6:31:40 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist
See there ? God gave man free choice before the fall. He told Adam " of every tree of the garden you may eat ( * FREELY * )

Just a note. I was at the nursing home where I give a Bible Study and an Elderly Woman justified Abortion by Free Will. Just thought you should know. On Adam and Eve, at that point, did not know sin. After the fall, much changed within them and for them.

But the Free Will folks have to say that their will was undamaged - that the Fall of Man was not so bad.

Of course the Apostle Paul puts it a different way, saying "Dead in Trespasses and Sin" over and over again. He cites the effects of sin quoting the Old Testament "There is NONE that Seeks for God" in Romans. And he cites many more effects of the fall on man.

But will you listen to Christ, who citing Abraham saying to the Rich man in Hell "Even if someone were to come back from the Dead they WILL NOT BELIEVE".

Funny how people dismiss these scriptures in Favor of the Man Centered Doctrine of Free Will.

12 posted on 01/31/2011 4:43:44 PM PST by sr4402
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