[paulist]

Bobsvainbabblings - “There are some things that don’t have to be written in Scripture for a person to understand about right and wrong.”

Romans 3:10-18 - “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands;
no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one. Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive. The venom of asps is under their lips. Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness. Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

1 Corinthians 1:21 - “For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him.....”

1 Corinthians 2:11 - “For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.”

Jeremiah 17:9 - “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?”

Isaiah 40:13 - “Who has understood the mind of the LORD, or instructed him as his counselor?”

Men an incapable of understand the things of God, apart from the Holy Spirit. Whenever man attempts to think of God and his ways, apart from the Holy Spirit, he always fashions a god in his mind that resembles himself; his desires, his likes and dislikes, etc......

Psalm 50:21 - “These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you.”

Bobsvainbabblings - “Everybody has to abide by the rules including the entity who makes the rules for it to be fair.”

Here you go again. You are not the arbiter of fair, and all authority in heaven and earth comes FROM God. He is not bound by anything or anyone. God is not under rules; God is the rule.

Was it “fair” that Jesus suffered and died for people who were utterly sinful, although He Himself never committed a single sin?

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 12 men to follow Him closely on earth and left everyone else out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 3 men to be in His inner circle and left the other 9 out?

Was it “fair” that jesus explained the parables to His disciples, without explaining them to the crowds?

God is way too big for our little minds. Rather than trying to reason your way to him, you need to humble yourself before His Word, and let Him tell you what He’s like. Let Him tell you about fairness. You should never rely on your own sense of right and wrong, and you should never, never, never rely on your own thought of God, for that is the essence of idolatry.

[Bobsvainbabblings]

The Old Testament scriptures are all before God gave His Spirit to all who ask. The New Testament Scriptures speak of people who do not let God's Spirit guide them as Jesus promised to those who ask.

 

Men an incapable of understand the things of God, apart from the Holy Spirit. Whenever man attempts to think of God and his ways, apart from the Holy Spirit, he always fashions a god in his mind that resembles himself; his desires, his likes and dislikes, etc......

Now who thinks he knows the mind of God? He is the only one who knows whether my thoughts come from His Spirit or the spirit of the world. 

Here you go again. You are not the arbiter of fair, and all authority in heaven and earth comes FROM God. He is not bound by anything or anyone. God is not under rules; God is the rule.

Hebrews 6:13-20 (New King James Version)

 

God’s Infallible Purpose in Christ

   
¹³ For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself, ¹⁴ saying, “Surely blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply you.”^{[a] 15} And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. ¹⁶ For men indeed swear by the greater, and an oath for confirmation is for them an end of all dispute. ¹⁷ Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise the immutability of His counsel, confirmed it by an oath, ¹⁸ that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might^[b] have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us.
¹⁹ This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters the Presence behind the veil, ²⁰ where the forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

God tells us we have free will. If He takes it away, it makes Him a liar which He says is an impossibility.

God has to abide by the rules He makes for us to trust Him.

Was it “fair” that Jesus suffered and died for people who were utterly sinful, although He Himself never committed a single sin?

God thinks so. That is all that matters. He asked Jesus to do it and He complied. Jesus used His free will to please His Father and save us of all.

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 12 men to follow Him closely on earth and left everyone else out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 3 men to be in His inner circle and left the other 9 out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus explained the parables to His disciples, without explaining them to the crowds?

All of this is the Church of the Magisterium making suppositions to bolster their claim that Jesus spent extra time with them to instruct them in the governance of a non scriptural physical earthly church.

He choose lots of people. You could just as easily suppose these men draw closer to Jesus because they believed Him more than the others. If He had truly shown favoritism to them, it would have been a sin.

God is way too big for our little minds. Rather than trying to reason your way to him, you need to humble yourself before His Word, and let Him tell you what He’s like. Let Him tell you about fairness. You should never rely on your own sense of right and wrong, and you should never, never, never rely on your own thought of God, for that is the essence of idolatry. I am sorry you think God is way be too big for your little mind. Jesus told me to come with the mind of a child and His Spirit will guide me.

It is only for my heavenly Father to judge whether my thoughts offend Him. He is the only One who matters. 

BVB

 

 

Was it “fair” that Jesus suffered and died for people who were utterly sinful, although He Himself never committed a single sin?

God thinks so. That is all that matters. He asked Jesus to do it and He complied. Jesus used His free will to please His Father and save us of all.

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 12 men to follow Him closely on earth and left everyone else out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 3 men to be in His inner circle and left the other 9 out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus explained the parables to His disciples, without explaining them to the crowds?

All of this is the Church of the Magisterium making suppositions to bolster their claim that Jesus spent extra time with them to instruct them in the governance of a non scriptural physical earthly church.

He choose lots of people. You could just as easily suppose these men draw closer to Jesus because they believed Him more than the others. If He had truly shown favoritism to them, it would have been a sin.

God is way too big for our little minds. Rather than trying to reason your way to him, you need to humble yourself before His Word, and let Him tell you what He’s like. Let Him tell you about fairness. You should never rely on your own sense of right and wrong, and you should never, never, never rely on your own thought of God, for that is the essence of idolatry. I am sorry you think God is way be too big for your little mind. Jesus told me to come with the mind of a child and His Spirit will guide me.

It is only for my heavenly Father to judge whether my thoughts offend Him. He is the only One who matters. 

BVB

Was it “fair” that Jesus suffered and died for people who were utterly sinful, although He Himself never committed a single sin?

God thinks so. That is all that matters. He asked Jesus to do it and He complied. Jesus used His free will to please His Father and save us of all.

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 12 men to follow Him closely on earth and left everyone else out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus chose 3 men to be in His inner circle and left the other 9 out?

Was it “fair” that Jesus explained the parables to His disciples, without explaining them to the crowds?

All of this is the Church of the Magisterium making suppositions to bolster their claim that Jesus spent extra time with them to instruct them in the governance of a non scriptural physical earthly church.

He choose lots of people. You could just as easily suppose these men draw closer to Jesus because they believed Him more than the others. If He had truly shown favoritism to them, it would have been a sin.

God is way too big for our little minds. Rather than trying to reason your way to him, you need to humble yourself before His Word, and let Him tell you what He’s like. Let Him tell you about fairness. You should never rely on your own sense of right and wrong, and you should never, never, never rely on your own thought of God, for that is the essence of idolatry. I am sorry you think God is way be too big for your little mind. Jesus told me to come with the mind of a child and His Spirit will guide me.

It is only for my heavenly Father to judge whether my thoughts offend Him. He is the only One who matters. 

BVB