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To: stfassisi

You are in denial. Additonally you have no concept of the hierarchy of truth. You can’t use a fallible document (”THE HOPE” OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS WHO DIE WITHOUT BEING BAPTISED)
to change dogma. The subject matter in duscussion is what happens to the unbaptized infant.The church has taught infallible that:

Church Teaching on Unbaptized Infants

John XXII [From the Letter “Nequaquam sine dolore” to the Armenians, Nov. 21, 1321] It (The Roman Church) teaches.... that the souls....of those who die in mortal sin, or with only original sin descend immediately into hell: however, to be punished with different penalties and in different places. (Denzinger 493a)

The Council of Florence, 1438 1445 Decree for the Greeks But the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straightaway to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains.(Denzinger 693)

The Council of Florence, 1438 1445 Bull of Union with the Copts With regard to children, since the danger of death is often present and the only remedy available to them is the sacrament of baptism by which they are snatched away from the dominion of the devil and adopted as children of God, it admonishes that sacred baptism is not to be deferred for forty or eighty days or any other period of time in accordance with the usage of some people, but should be conferred as soon as it conveniently can; and if there is imminent danger of death, the child should be baptized straightaway without any delay even by a lay man or a woman in the form of the church, if there is no priest, as is contained more fully in the decree on the Armenians. (Denzinger 712)

Council of Lyons IL (1274) The Souls of those that die in mortal sin or in original sin go down into Hell, but there they receive different punishments. (Denzinger 464)

Council of Carthage, (417 418) Original Sin and Grace Canon 2 If anyone should say that newborn children need not be baptized that no original sin is derived from Adam to be washed away in the laver of regeneration, so that in their case the baptismal formula for the remission of sins is to be taken in a fictitious and not in the true sense, “let him be Anathema” (Denzinger 102)

Innocent III 1198 1216 The effect of Baptism The punishment of original sin is the deprivation of the vision of God but the punishment of actual is the torments of everlasting hell ... (Denzinger 410)

Errors of the Synod of Pistoia [Condemnations in the Constitution, “Auctorem fidei, “ Aug. 28, 1794] The Punishment of Those Who Die with Original Sin [Baptism, sec. 3] 26.The doctrine which rejects as Pelagian fable, that place of the lower regions ( which the faithful generally designate by the name of the limbo of children) in which the souls of those departing with the sole guilt of original sin are punished of with the punishment of the condemned, exclusive of the punishment of fire, just as if. by this very fact, that these who remove the punishment of fire introduced that middle place and state free of guilt and of punishment between the kingdom of God and eternal damnation, such as that about which the Pelagians idly talk, false, rash, injurious to Catholic teachings. (CONDEMNED) (Denzinger 1526)


25 posted on 01/19/2011 1:49:48 PM PST by verdugo
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To: verdugo

From The Council Of Florence....

http://www.ewtn.com/library/councils/florence.htm
“those who die before they incur any guilt go straight to the kingdom of heaven and the vision of God.”

Obviously an aborted fetus or stillborn child could not incur guilt,ver.

From the Council f Florence..”It firmly believes, professes and teaches that every creature of God is good and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving””

Unborn Children are obviously good and not rejected by God,ver

Do you believe aborted and unborn Children are somehow bad in the eyes of God?


34 posted on 01/19/2011 2:32:27 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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