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Biblical Minimalism and "The History of Preterism" : The Silent History of Dispensationalism
Preterist Archive ^ | Gary DeMar

Posted on 01/18/2011 12:46:45 PM PST by topcat54

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1 posted on 01/18/2011 12:46:50 PM PST by topcat54
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"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 01/18/2011 12:47:51 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

You know, I feel sorry for you.

When I got saved and when God enlightened his Word to me, I was so happy and contented to be free of romish soteriology, ecclesiology and eschatology.

It truly pains me to see brothers in Christ to be in a roman prison of preterist eschatology.

At least when Paul was physically in a Roman prison, he was spiritually free.

Thank you for reminding me to pray for the preterists in my own congregation.

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3 posted on 01/18/2011 1:18:36 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

I don’t think Preterists are Romish. Amillinialism is the eschatology of most catholics. For the record I think all systems have holes. Historic Amillianialism is adequate. The world will continue become more evil; then the second coming of Christ who will judge the quick and the dead. Simple enough for me.


4 posted on 01/18/2011 1:26:11 PM PST by Augustinian monk (NAFTA/GATT- How 's that free trade thingy workin out, America?)
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To: fishtank
roman prison of preterist eschatology

Who writes your material? That’s a good one …


5 posted on 01/18/2011 1:30:11 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: fishtank
I was so happy and contented to be free of romish … eschatology.

So, before you got saved you were wrapped around the axle of “romish eschatology,” perhaps invented by men. But now you’ve been set free to get wrapped around the axle of a tribulational rapturism eschatology invented by other men.

And that’s a good thing how?

From the frying pan into the fire, as they say.

6 posted on 01/18/2011 1:38:20 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54; Chet 99

Chet99 has his pitbulls.
topcat54 has his escatological insecurities to post.

FR is operating on all cylinders.


7 posted on 01/18/2011 2:12:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: topcat54

hey, tc, btw, if you aren’t leaving when Christ meets his saints in the clouds, you can use my Lexus. I won’t be needing it...


8 posted on 01/18/2011 2:13:31 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: topcat54
While history is important and interesting to study, it is not authoritative.

Except when quoting Josephus ... lol

9 posted on 01/18/2011 2:23:56 PM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: topcat54; sasportas; Quix

“the axle of a tribulational rapturism eschatology invented by other men.”

The Scriptures are very clear.

Sasportas, Quix and others posted many of them last week.

It’s grievous to think that you consider “tribulational rapturism eschatology” to be a manmade system.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 2:31:37 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: topcat54

“Now, you have to realize that the Scripture really doesn’t mean what it says in that verse....”

An often-quote from my very own preterist pastor ....

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11 posted on 01/18/2011 2:33:32 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Don’t pray to hard, they might starting preaching to you on how your eschatology is wrong, then you eventually won’t be able to take it anymore and then your head will explode from too much good information. < /s>


12 posted on 01/18/2011 3:31:59 PM PST by ReformedBeckite
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topcat54,

Just so that you know, Mr. DeMar, in the opening sentences of this article is taking a position that would make a cheapskate blush. If you want to be a preterist by all means don’t let little old me get in your way but DeMar, like many Covenant Theologians writing popular books (ex: Riddlebarger), is basically preaching to the choir, his very own personal choir.

As a general rule, the only theology I defend is my own, but Ice is a very capable theologian and doesn’t need any help finding the straight and narrow from DeMar with his childish augments.

So I ask the question, TC what exactly is the purpose of your thread? Do you think the cleaver Gary DeMar is making fools out of the dispensationalist crowd? Are you trying to impress us with your grasp of the various theological positions? Are you on a crusade to rid the world of pre-mil theology? Is your ministry the effort to prove that you are smarter than the writers of the Left Behind Series?

Of course the only question that really matters is have you confessed your sins and are trusting in the shed blood of Christ as the only way to salvation. But the Bible is clear as to what things will be like when Jesus returns, like for example it says something about the whole world seeing his return when it happens. Prove that Jesus actually returned in AD 70 and then you will have something to brag about.

Have a nice day...

13 posted on 01/18/2011 4:22:33 PM PST by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: fishtank

Grevious and shocking.

I still shake my head often that anyone could believe such UNBiblical tripe as the REPLACEMENTARIANS, PRETERISTS et al.


14 posted on 01/18/2011 4:31:22 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: fishtank

Pharisees have been

TELLING GOD

what

GOD MEANT

for eons.

Christ wasn’t impressed with them, either.


15 posted on 01/18/2011 4:32:12 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: fatboy
EXCELLENT. VERY WELL PUT. ACCURATE:

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So I ask the question, TC what exactly is the purpose of your thread? Do you think the cleaver Gary DeMar is making fools out of the dispensationalist crowd? Are you trying to impress us with your grasp of the various theological positions? Are you on a crusade to rid the world of pre-mil theology? Is your ministry the effort to prove that you are smarter than the writers of the Left Behind Series?

Of course the only question that really matters is have you confessed your sins and are trusting in the shed blood of Christ as the only way to salvation. But the Bible is clear as to what things will be like when Jesus returns, like for example it says something about the whole world seeing his return when it happens. Prove that Jesus actually returned in AD 70 and then you will have something to brag about.

16 posted on 01/18/2011 4:35:44 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
hey, tc, btw, if you aren’t leaving when Christ meets his saints in the clouds, you can use my Lexus. I won’t be needing it...

You want to sign the papers now?

17 posted on 01/18/2011 6:04:02 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: fatboy
fatboy,

You're more than welcome to make substantive comments. [Note the absence of any caucus label.] Or is drive by more your style?

But the Bible is clear as to what things will be like when Jesus returns,

I'm sure you have the details all worked out.

18 posted on 01/18/2011 6:07:21 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: fishtank
“Now, you have to realize that the Scripture really doesn’t mean what it says in that verse....”

Sounds like futurist hermeneutics. Literal when convenient.

19 posted on 01/18/2011 6:09:09 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

“hey, tc, btw, if you aren’t leaving when Christ meets his saints in the clouds, you can use my Lexus. I won’t be needing it...

You want to sign the papers now?
....................................

Heck, once I’m gone, just move into my house and take
over everything!


20 posted on 01/18/2011 6:35:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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