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To: CynicalBear
He specifically states, in so many words, that it is “before the tribulation” and no amount of double speak on your part can change the words.

You cannot take a sentence out of context from the source. Obviously, you did not read the link to the source I previously posted. The "it" you refer to is not the rapture. "Taken to the Lord" means "participate at least in some measure in beatitude" and the "beatitude" has to do with "the highest acts of virtue that can be performed in this life." These acts are performed on earth, not in the sky or Heaven.

Before you post again, please read this thorough debunking of the pre-trib appeals to the Pseudo-Ephraem quote:

http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com/files/articles/deceiving.htm

425 posted on 01/17/2011 12:28:28 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I’ve read it. I’ve also read other views like this: http://www.raptureready.com/who/Dave_MacPherson.html


450 posted on 01/17/2011 12:56:46 PM PST by CynicalBear
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