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To: metmom; count-your-change
cyc: Prayerfully, only those Christ taught his followers. Try as I might I don’t find killing ANYONE allowed and if you do you haven’t said so yet. Is there a reason?

mb: You would never kill anyone for any reason?

Total red herring. That has absolutely nothing to do with the torture and murder allegedly in the name of Christ which the Catholic church perpetrated on people.

I see. When Protestants do it, it's okay. When the Church did it, it's torture and murder allegedly in the name of Christ. Hint: you have to look no further than the American colonies

Was it Christlike of the Catholic church to torture and kill those who it labeled as heretics against itself? Was it obedient to the teachings of Jesus, or any other writer of the NT?

cyc was kind enough to point them out to me.

2,591 posted on 02/01/2011 7:26:19 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr

“I see. When Protestants do it, it’s okay.”

Nay, not so. In this the Reformation did not reform but only changed leadership. Murder in the name of Christ is murder.

But Catholics claim that THEY have the one true and apostolic church and must be viewed from the standpoint of their claims about themselves.

If there are Protestants justifying similar acts I would respond in the same way.

As Jesus said to the Pharisees at Luke 11:48,’You are witnesses of the deeds of your forefathers and you give consent to them, these killed the prophets and you build tombs to them’.

Anyone can go to the Catholic Encyclopedia and read the specious reasoning justifying and excusing and blame shifting ad nauseum.


2,616 posted on 02/01/2011 8:45:09 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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