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To: Benchim
Read what Jesus said to his disciples who complained about the woman who poured perfume on his feet.

Now ask yourself, do you think that woman went out from Jesus’ presence and “went back to work?” No.

I am not saying she never sinned again, no I am saying that thinking you can continue in your sin without suffering is not biblical, either,

But please, do not miss understand me, it's not a issue of salvation it's an issue of what we will reap in this life, and beyond. Be not fooled, when you sow wild oats, wild oats grow, not cherry trees. The good news is ....... God still loves you and your security (of the believer) is unshakable.

The only unforgivable sin is that of rejection of God. (Grieving the Holy Spirit).

5 posted on 01/10/2011 6:58:00 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

For every verse that seems to teach eternal security, I can give you five that shows that it is not scriptural.

Earlier, someone quoted, Romans 8:1. Yet, You have to read the context: “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.”

Jesus says in John 10, “My sheep hear my voice . . . they listen to me . . .”

1 John 3:6, “No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.”

1 Cor. 6:9, “Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders . . .”

Wouldn’t the word of God say about the above list, “Unless you’ve been born again?” if it didn’t matter how you lived your life?

I believe that we are eternally secure as we walk in Christ. We are saved by grace through faith, not by works lest any man should boast. [however] We are God’s workmanship created in Christ Jesus to do good works.
Read Ephesians 2:8-10.

Although we are saved by grace, unless we’re walking the talk, we’re only fooling ourselves.

One last verse: (I could give you many more) Jesus said, “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

I’m not trying to argue—just share the truth.


17 posted on 01/10/2011 7:59:50 PM PST by Justice4awe
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