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To: netmilsmom
They don’t pray too the saints? Oh yes they do.

Prayer of Pope Pius XII
In Honor of the Immaculate Conception
http://catholicism.about.com/od/tothevirginmary/qt/Honor_Immacula.htm
Prayer of Pope Pius XII

Enraptured by the splendor of your heavenly beauty, and impelled by the anxieties of the world, we cast ourselves into your arms, O Immaculate Mother of Jesus and our Mother, Mary, confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.

Though degraded by our faults and overwhelmed by infinite misery, we admire and praise the peerless richness of sublime gifts with which God has filled you, above every other mere creature, from the first moment of your conception until the day on which, after your assumption into heaven, He crowned you Queen of the Universe.

O crystal fountain of faith, bathe our minds with the eternal truths! O fragrant Lily of all holiness, captivate our hearts with your heavenly perfume! O Conqueress of evil and death, inspire in us a deep horror of sin, which makes the soul detestable to God and a slave of hell!

O well-beloved of God, hear the ardent cry which rises up from every heart. Bend tenderly over our aching wounds. Convert the wicked, dry the tears of the afflicted and oppressed, comfort the poor and humble, quench hatreds, sweeten harshness, safeguard the flower of purity in youth, protect the holy Church, make all men feel the attraction of Christian goodness. In your name, resounding harmoniously in heaven, may they recognize that they are brothers, and that the nations are members of one family, upon which may there shine forth the sun of a universal and sincere peace.

Receive, O most sweet Mother, our humble supplications, and above all obtain for us that, one day, happy with you, we may repeat before your throne that hymn which today is sung on earth around your altars: You are all-beautiful, O Mary! You are the glory, you are the joy, you are the honor of our people! Amen.

Not one word of praying through Mary. He was praying to Mary.

25 posted on 01/04/2011 6:09:51 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

No, they don’t.
And especially the Pope does not. You are not God and have no clue what was in his heart nor his intention.

Assuming makes an a$$ out of you and me.

So unless you can come up with the dogma that says what you believe, I’m sorry but you have misunderstood the intent of that prayer.


28 posted on 01/04/2011 6:50:06 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: CynicalBear

I suppose the question remains, does Mary have a throne, and are you subject to it? By the way, it is an easy yoke. He who honors the Mother honors the Son, from Whom all Grace flows.


31 posted on 01/04/2011 7:01:28 PM PST by blackpacific
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To: CynicalBear
Thanks for post #25. Very telling.

A couple of phrases strike me as particularly problematic there. "Conqueress of evil of death"...that sentiment should be reserved for Christ who conquered evil when He died on the cross. Mary did no such thing.

Also, the phrase "convert the wicked" smacks of heresy. Conversion is done by the Triune God. This prayer goes far beyond what Catholics claim they do which is simply ask Mary to pray for them.

54 posted on 01/05/2011 10:34:08 AM PST by what's up
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