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Miracle approved for beatification of John Paul II
Rome Reports ^ | 1/4/2011

Posted on 01/04/2011 3:05:11 PM PST by markomalley

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To: CynicalBear
You just proved my point, arguing from the use of the inexact word “worship”. St. Alphons use of the term is more loose than the ignorant Baptist intentional poverty-of-language fixation on “worship”.

“We worship deity”, who said that? Maybe that is what you do, maybe that is why you are not sincere about knowing the fullness of revealed truth?

St. Alphons is exuberant about his love of Mary, but none of what he says constitutes Catholic teaching. When the currrent Pope defines Mary as Mediatrix of All Grace, then you will have a dogma to complain about. But listen to how G.K. Chesterton describes the Church:

“This is the thrilling romance of Orthodoxy. People have fallen into a foolish habit of speaking of orthodoxy as something heavy, humdrum, and safe. There never was anything so perilous or so exciting as orthodoxy. It was sanity: and to be sane is more dramatic than to be mad. It was the equilibrium of a man behind madly rushing horses, seeming to stoop this way and to sway that, yet in every attitude having the grace of statuary and the accuracy of arithmetic. The Church in its early days went fierce and fast with any warhorse; yet it is utterly unhistoric to say that she merely went mad along one idea, like a vulgar fanaticism. She swerved to left and right, so exactly as to avoid enormous obstacles. She left on one hand the huge bulk of Arianism, buttressed by all the worldly powers to make Christianity too worldly. The next instant she was swerving to avoid an orientalism, which would have made it too unworldly. The orthodox Church never took the tame course or accepted the conventions; the orthodox Church was never respectable. It would have been easier to have accepted the earthly power of the Arians. It would have been easy, in the Calvinistic seventeenth century, to fall into the bottomless pit of predestination. It is easy to be a madman: it is easy to be a heretic. It is always easy to let the age have its head; the difficult thing is to keep one’s own. It is always easy to be a modernist; as it is easy to be a snob. To have fallen into any of those open traps of error and exaggeration which fashion after fashion and sect after sect set along the historic path of Christendom—that would indeed have been simple. It is always simple to fall; there are an infinity of angles at which one falls, only one at which one stands. To have fallen into any one of the fads from Gnosticism to Christian Science would indeed have been obvious and tame. But to have avoided them all has been one whirling adventure; and in my vision the heavenly chariot flies thundering through the ages, the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect.”

Happy New Year!

61 posted on 01/06/2011 5:46:01 AM PST by blackpacific
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To: maryz

It’s more strict than that. The miracle has to be of divine origin, not some trick by fallen angels, some thing only God could do.

To be cured of Parkinson’s, which is an autoimmune disorder, is not a divine event in my estimation, maybe this nun’s immune system recovered, or maybe she changed her diet? Of course, any correction of an autoimmune condition by diet alone would be considered a miracle by the AMA. :)


62 posted on 01/06/2011 5:53:31 AM PST by blackpacific
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