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To: libstripper
buggering the choir boys

Boys? FReepers tell me they were young adults not children and that pedophiles don't exist in the Catholic church...

Oh' and the victims should be ashamed of themselves for looting the church. They should just, "get over it" because it happened a long time ago. You know, get raped as a child and forgive and forget...
15 posted on 01/04/2011 2:14:46 PM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: TSgt

It’s pyschological term semantics, I can’t stand the people who do what you say.

If you are attracted to members of the same sex, no matter what age, it’s a homosexual attraction.

If they are young kids it’s also pedophilia, it’s sexual attraction to a child.

What gender you’re attracted to is a distinction, and what age you are attracted to is a separate distinction.


18 posted on 01/04/2011 2:27:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: TSgt

Well, I for one, am one who’s led the charge on pointing out that the perpetrators are not truly pedophiles, because their victims are post-pubescent. But they are still boys.

The intent in this charge is not to excuse the priests, as if their crimes are any less heinous, but to give lie to the false claims by the media that this has nothing to do with homosexuals. Rather, it has everything to do with homosexuals, and an extremely urgent requirement of reform is to man up to political-correctness crowd and keep those with disordered sexuality out of the priesthood.

Personally, I believe that the crisis stems from three very politically incorrect facts:

1. The celibate life of a priest is a very dangerous environment for those with dysfunctional sexuality.

2. Far too many with disordered sexuality sought out the priesthood precisely because of their disorders, believing that celibacy would render their dysfunctions moot.

3. A major cause of the perpetuation of abuse was that the church looked to secular “experts,” such as civil lawyers and psychologists, instead of canonical lawyers, confessors, and even exorcists. Civil lawyers’ purposes were to avoid lost investment, and psychologists’ purposes was rehab; the church’s purpose should have been to remove offenders from their ministry (cf. Nicene Council), THEN incarcerate the guilty, THEN spiritually assist the victims and ALL THE WHILE looking to spiritual combat to save the souls of the scandalized and yes, the perpetrators.


23 posted on 01/04/2011 4:56:15 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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To: TSgt

Well, I for one, am one who’s led the charge on pointing out that the perpetrators are not truly pedophiles, because their victims are post-pubescent. But they are still boys.

The intent in this charge is not to excuse the priests, as if their crimes are any less heinous, but to give lie to the false claims by the media that this has nothing to do with homosexuals. Rather, it has everything to do with homosexuals, and an extremely urgent requirement of reform is to man up to political-correctness crowd and keep those with disordered sexuality out of the priesthood.

Personally, I believe that the crisis stems from three very politically incorrect facts:

1. The celibate life of a priest is a very dangerous environment for those with dysfunctional sexuality.

2. Far too many with disordered sexuality sought out the priesthood precisely because of their disorders, believing that celibacy would render their dysfunctions moot.

3. A major cause of the perpetuation of abuse was that the church looked to secular “experts,” such as civil lawyers and psychologists, instead of canonical lawyers, confessors, and even exorcists. Civil lawyers’ purposes were to avoid lost investment, and psychologists’ purposes was rehab; the church’s purpose should have been to remove offenders from their ministry (cf. Nicene Council), THEN incarcerate the guilty, THEN spiritually assist the victims and ALL THE WHILE looking to spiritual combat to save the souls of the scandalized and yes, the perpetrators.


24 posted on 01/04/2011 4:59:27 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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