[restornu]

So far you have not given me a specific item from the offical Church Doctrine which is contain in the standard works.

Bible Book of Mormon Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants

Anything else is Sermons, Ponderings and speculations.

[Syncro]

So far you have not given me a specific item from the offical Church Doctrine which is contain in the standard works.

Bible Book of Mormon Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants

Thank you so much, restornu!

Here's a start:

"All of us lived in this heavenly spiritual realm before we were born with physical bodies on the earth. Christ was begotten of the Father, as were all of us, including Lucifer, who was a Son of the Morning. The title “Son of the Morning” could either signify that Lucifer was one of the earliest born of the spirits, or was illustrious, or both. The name Lucifer means “lightbearer” or “shining one.” Since both Christ and Lucifer were born of the Father, they are brothers in a spiritual sense, as all of us are brothers and sisters in that sense. (LDS teaching regarding Joseph Smith‘s, Pearl of Great Price: Book of Moses 4:1-4)

So Jesus and Lucifer are brothers, both born of the Father?

And here is another. Does it count, it is from the Prophet Joseph Smith:

"Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)

Jesus' Father (God) laid down His life, same as Jesus?

Is that considered Sermons, Ponderings or speculations or can it be considered "gospel" from the LDS?

It's my understanding that the title Prophet means one that speaks God's truth.

Wouldn't Smith's pronouncements be considered offical Church Doctrine?

Here is the final one, restornu.

"In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)

Does not that speak of many Gods, restornu?

Thank you for your patience, I await your answers!

[T Minus Four]

So far you have not given me a specific item from the offical Church Doctrine which is contain in the standard works. Bible Book of Mormon Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants Anything else is Sermons, Ponderings and speculations.

But, but...what if The Living Prophet© speaks them? Aren't they as valid as scripture at least until he dies and is replaced?

[Godzilla]

So far you have not given me a specific item from the offical Church Doctrine which is contain in the standard works. Bible Book of Mormon Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants Anything else is Sermons, Ponderings and speculations.

Resty - you need to go back to your basic studies again. YOu don't believe in a living prophet? Just a man in a three piece suit?

BTW, re-read "gospel principles" under "scripture" to reeducate yourself.