and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people.”
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Norm, Norm, Norm. That isn’t a prophecy, that is a ‘Captain Obvious’ statement.
I can ‘prophesy’ the same thing about me. Els can do the same, Sandra Tanner, Barack Obama, George Bush, EVERYONE can ‘prophecy’ the same thing.
Does that make them a prophet? Not at all. And it doesn’t make Smith one either.
BTW, if you want to be nit picky, he uses the term ‘all nations’. There are several nations in Africa and the Middle East you haven’t heard of Joe Smith. So even there it is a failed prophecy.
You would think people to be smarter than that and not see through it.
I hereby prophesy that the Binger will never go to the moon and will be mocked on FR by certain PR spinners for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues. And I bear my solemn testimony that this is true.
JOSEPH SMITH WAS DEAD RIGHT (literally) REGARDING TWO PROPHESIES
A VAIN PROPHET WILL BE THROWN DOWN: July 1828. D&C 3:4.
For although a man may have many revelations, and have power to do many mighty works, yet if he boasts in his own strength, and sets at naught the counsels of God, and follows after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires, he must fall and incur the vengeance of a just God upon him.GLOBAL WARMING: Nov 3, 1831. D&C 133:26.FULFILLED: On May 26, 1844, Joseph Smith made the following statement in a public sermon (Brodie p 374, HC 6:408-412):
Come on, ye persecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! For I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.At the time that he boasted that he was greater than Jesus and denied that he had plural wives, Smith was secretly married polygamously to over 30 women, some of them wives of men still living. Many who knew of these secret marriages accused him of changing the doctrine of the church to satisfy his own carnal desires in violation of the Book of Mormon (Jacob 2:23-29, 3:5) and D&C 49:16.
Almost exactly one month after this boast, on June 27, 1844, Smith was killed in a blotched escape attempt at Carthage Jail.
NOTE: For some reason, this prophecy by Joseph Smith, although it was fulfilled quickly and literally, is rarely cited by Mormon apologists.
Those who are in the north countries... shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence.JOSEPH SMITH WAS DEAD WRONG (literally) REGARDING DOZENS OF OTHER PROPHESIESFULFILLED: Smith's uncanny prediction of Global Warming resulting from hydrocarbons taken by smiting the rocks has been confirmed by no less of an authority than the Nobel Laureate AlGore.
You can see a partial list of 50 or so of Smith's failed prophecies HERE.
As to my favorite prognostication by Smith, personally, I'm torn between his prophecies of: (1) the violent overthrow of the United States in the 1830's, (2) the second coming of Christ sometime before 1891, (3) the discovery of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel living in cement houses in a valley near the North Pole, (4) the finding the moon is inhabited by men dressed like Quakers, and (5) his prediction that science will discover the earth has knobs on each end.
Perhaps you also have a personal favorite. If so, I would love to hear it.
/Zak
I am now a “prophet' in the same vein as old Joe Smith...
Follow me...