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Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ
LDS.org ^ | Dennis B. Neuenschwander

Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender

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To: F15Eagle
Several fourteen year old girls. I noticed many of the other women were listed as married. Hmmmm.

Can you say Jim Jones?

Smith denied being a polygamist publicly. Perhaps he knew deep down that it was wrong.

Good link.

2,341 posted on 01/07/2011 12:11:34 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: reaganaut; caww

What I am not interested in doing is *Arguing* with other’s.

I did not say I grew up as a JW, I said I learned about GOD from the JW’s as they were our neighbors when I was growing up..
Do I witness to JW’s..no...The ones I do know say they are Christians and I am not going to argue with them...

My witnessing is to people who have left the Church and say GOD does not exist, and people who try and twist scripture on sin.....So no I am not in La La Land....I don’t know with over 2000 posts here, do you think you are reaching Mormon’s to change thier mind about being Mormon????

If you are that’s great, but if you aren’t then it’s just bantering back and fourth.....

I just feel people that are dead set in thier religious beliefs are not going to change thier mind, unless thier heart is open to the Holy SPirit....

I don’t know if the Best Witnessing methods are learning how ever long it takes, about Mormon Doctrine, or the Qura’n so you can argue the point with Muslims and Mormons...

If you do, and it works then I say..Go for it....

GOD has a way to use everyone for his purpose if we are open.....


2,342 posted on 01/07/2011 12:23:10 PM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: F15Eagle
You know I just realized the women that Joe Smith married were polyganous too. Their first husbands didn't know about them being married to old Joe.

"Daughter of David Sessions and Patty Bartlett Sessions, who married Joseph Smith one month after her daughter's marriage to him. On her deathbed, Sylvia informed her daughter Josephine Lyons that she was Smith's daughter: "Just prior to my mothers death in 1882 she called me to her bedside … to tell me something which she had kept as an entire secret from me and from all others but which she now desired to communicate to me. She then told me that I was the daughter of the Prophet Joseph Smith." (Newell & Avery 1994, pp. 44, Compton 1997, pp. 183)"

2,343 posted on 01/07/2011 12:24:45 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: F15Eagle

Yeah that’s how I read that.
That was a new one for me.

Also, the woman had two husbands.


2,346 posted on 01/07/2011 12:36:08 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: F15Eagle
Yes a hole in the top AND in the bottom which thou must stoppeth. I was thinking, when I first read it, how fast it would ... (wait for it) ... sinketh.

It mattereth not.

2,347 posted on 01/07/2011 12:41:07 PM PST by Elsie
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To: TaraP
What I am not interested in doing is *Arguing* with other’s.

Fair and legitimate questions and answers have been given you since you involved yourself in this thread. It's very obvious this thread and others like it are indeed about debate and arguing those points people want to make. In many cases it is about defending your position not just simply stating it, especially when you are critical of those who are doing so.

Therefore, you have now stated you are not interested in debate..and if that is really the case I wouldn't expect to see further statements made by you, and if so you've now established a line which states they are NOT open for discussion.... Thus I will no longer waste my time on a closed door.

2,348 posted on 01/07/2011 12:46:03 PM PST by caww
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To: F15Eagle
Yes a hole in the top AND in the bottom which thou must stoppeth. I was thinking, when I first read it, how fast it would ... (wait for it) ... sinketh.

It mattereth not.

2,349 posted on 01/07/2011 12:54:47 PM PST by Elsie
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To: caww

you missed my point entirely.....


2,350 posted on 01/07/2011 12:58:35 PM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: caww

I tend to adhere to these Scripture messages...

Titus 3:9-11 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned....

1 Peter 4:10

As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God’s varied grace:

Romans 14:1-23

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.

Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...


2,351 posted on 01/07/2011 1:02:22 PM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: Syncro
Welcome to the wonderful world of lds responses. Should not be surprising when lds follow the liar Joseph Smith.
2,352 posted on 01/07/2011 1:14:58 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: F15Eagle

placemarkereth


2,355 posted on 01/07/2011 2:45:15 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Spiteth into the windeth.


2,356 posted on 01/07/2011 2:55:02 PM PST by Elsie
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To: F15Eagle

Remarkable the cults and false religions who use Christian termonalogy and most every story recorded in the Bible to re-make it into their own copy-cat rendition...which is always as close to the original as possible...hence counterfeit. Been that way for centuries... no different today than it was all the way back to the garden.

Interesting it is generally woman who are deceived first in entering false religions....then the husband follows...even if He knows better in the beginning. Glen Beck’s story is a prime example of this.


2,357 posted on 01/07/2011 3:20:37 PM PST by caww
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To: svcw
Welcome to the wonderful world of lds responses. Should not be surprising when lds follow the liar Joseph Smith.

I spent a lot of time in the RF a couple of years ago.

I collected a bunch of crickets back then too lol!

I don't think I ever have had a LDS person address their own prophets, official teachings, etc writings on some of the most important things that they believe.

Instead they wait, and make an overall statement that they don't believe the "propaganda" that we post.

I realize that is all they can do, because the "propaganda" is from their own offical writings and it exposes the LDS belief system for what it is.

Many gods, and their descriptions of the traits, etc of Jesus are obviously not the Historical Biblical Jesus.

Hopefully lurking Mormons will break throught the barrier walls that the leaders construct to keep them in line with all the fears assoiciated with questioning and seeking the truth.

2,358 posted on 01/07/2011 4:09:56 PM PST by Syncro (Mormons, they are OK. Mormonism, not so much : >)
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To: TaraP

Do I witness to JW’s..no...The ones I do know say they are Christians and I am not going to argue with them...

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Wow. Just wow. If you learned about God from the JW’s no wonder you are confused.

It is apparent that you have no spiritual discernment.

What about moonies, Jim Jones, Westboro Baptist, SDA’s?

Is everyone who SAYS they are a Christian, a Christian? Even if they do miracles in the name of Christ (do you need a reference?)

We HAVE reached Mormons and changed their mind about being Mormon, we have seen people who were going to join Mormonism, NOT because of what we post, so YEAH I believe that it can be done!!!

You are in lala land when it comes to cults. I pray God opens your eyes, because in a lot of ways, it is easier to witness to atheists than it is to cultists.

BTW, JW’s aren’t Christians either.

The Bible tells us NO, they aren’t.


2,359 posted on 01/07/2011 4:22:23 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: TaraP; caww

Those are great verses, when you are dealing with groups within the BODY of CHRIST.

The point is, there are groups who want people to think they are Christians because it legitimizes them (Mormons, JWs), but they are not in the Body of Christ.

That isn’t a quarrel, that is a witness.


2,360 posted on 01/07/2011 4:24:27 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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