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Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ
LDS.org ^ | Dennis B. Neuenschwander

Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender

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To: Normandy
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is His church, and therefore where I want to be.

I find it very interesting then why would you be interested in what the people on these threads have to say, especially since you know they oppose the teachings of Mormonism...or is there some other purpose you have? What is the attraction which keeps you coming back to these threads?

2,081 posted on 01/05/2011 11:15:22 PM PST by caww
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To: eastforker; All

You are baiting......or define the History behind each groups association with Abraham....and your source. Then we’ll debate. Game on?


2,082 posted on 01/05/2011 11:35:11 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

My motivation for commenting on these threads is to provide accurate information to counter the prevailing opinion here about my faith.

The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don’t believe in Jesus Christ as Savior — that is just not true, and I feel it’s important to say so.

Regards,

Normandy


2,083 posted on 01/06/2011 4:31:12 AM PST by Normandy
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To: Normandy
The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don’t believe in Jesus Christ as Savior — that is just not true, and I feel it’s important to say so.

Not quite. The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don't believe in the same Jesus Christ as mainstream traditional Christianity as Savior. But yet you keep trying to equate the two as being the same when your own leaders have denied that they are the same

…."do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fulness of Times. He together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages." (Gordon B. Hinckley, Late President of the LDS, Deseret News, Church News section, Salt Lake City, Utah, week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7)

To keep going AGAINST your own leadership in attempting to present a DIFFERENT Christ as the SAME Christ of traditional Christianity is deception, and yeah, people are going to take offense to it, and yeah, you're going to be called on it.

Just come clean and admit your Christ is different, the same as Hinckley did, and we won't have any problems! Continue to lie and be deceptive about it to people not familiar with the creeds of Mormonism and you will CONTINUE to be called out!

2,084 posted on 01/06/2011 4:47:15 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: Normandy
"My motivation for commenting on these threads is to provide accurate information to counter the prevailing opinion here about my faith"

Why is it important to you that you do this on FR, and does Mormonism require that you do this on internet sites?

The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don’t believe in Jesus Christ as Savior — that is just not true, and I feel it’s important to say so.

We know that Mormonism teaches about 'a' counterfeit Jesus, but I think it's been made very clear it is not the Jesus of Christianity, and not just on these threads but in many debates across our country within the Christian community. Which is why saying that you believe in Jesus does not compute no matter how many times you post it.

Perhaps if you would define the destination your Jesus has for Mormons...which is completely different than the Christian Jesus. The fact they believe in many Gods which they can become and are completely off base with so many other basic beliefs of the faith...how can you then justify your position of being a Christian...when you follow another "Gospel" altogether?

2,085 posted on 01/06/2011 5:04:44 AM PST by caww
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To: SENTINEL
It would be very disrespectful of any true believing mormon to disregard the one the man you claim "communed with God" worked three years to "correct". Well, since the ENTIRE Organization has basically REJECTED it...

One would think that if MONSON would 'beseech' heaven, that GOD would relent and FINALLY give a revelation that "Yes, the JST, which my faithful servant Joseph Smith translatred by my direct COMMAND, is now to be considered SCRIPTURE - and that foul KJV can be put to rest."

2,086 posted on 01/06/2011 5:28:21 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Normandy
The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don’t believe in Jesus Christ as Savior — that is just not true, and I feel it’s important to say so.

Norm, it appears that you are NOT paying attention.

NO one has said that you do not believe in the MORMON definition of Jesus Christ as Saviour.

What has been pointed out, quite accurately, is that the MORMON jesus is NOT the same as the BIBLICAL one.

You may DENY this all you want; but you canNOT erase what MORMONism has written.

Sorry.

2,087 posted on 01/06/2011 5:38:20 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Religion Moderator

No he didn’t. But I’ll leave.


2,088 posted on 01/06/2011 6:03:28 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Elsie; conservativegramma; caww

Hi all,

Fair points. Let me see if I can state this better.

The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don’t believe in the Biblical Christ as Savior. That’s just not true, and I feel it’s important to say so.

Regards to you all,

Normandy


2,089 posted on 01/06/2011 6:18:53 AM PST by Normandy
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To: Normandy
Freedom and salvation in Christ is what I have discovered in Mormonism

Would you still be free and saved if you walked away from Mormonism today?

2,090 posted on 01/06/2011 6:50:51 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Impressive. How can you know so much already? :-)

I'm sure that's a left-handed compliment but I'll give you a serious answer: I'm ravenous for the Word. I pray continually. I ask the Holy Spirit to teach me.

I know so little really, but plan to continue learning about God's majesty and love for the next couple of bazillion years.

2,091 posted on 01/06/2011 6:55:59 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
No thanks. Don’t really want what you have, or claim to have

That's ok, every single breath you draw in is another chance to reconsider.

2,092 posted on 01/06/2011 6:57:40 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Godzilla

Why oh why are you playing with that fool...


2,093 posted on 01/06/2011 6:58:20 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: restornu
Prophecy fulfilled! I knew you couldn't resist "talking back"

So Resty, what it we formed an anti-Mormon(ism) caucus where we could post internet articles from and to Mormons? Only the "anti's" could post. Is that what you want, LOL?

2,094 posted on 01/06/2011 7:01:51 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: greyfoxx39
I know!! I know!! Pick me teacher! Pay Lay Ale! [Wave white hanky]

LOL! Lay it on me :-)

2,095 posted on 01/06/2011 7:03:18 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Normandy
The most inaccurate theme that comes up repeatedly is that Mormons don’t believe in the Biblical Christ as Savior. That’s just not true..

Sigh. Are you reading impaired???

…."do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fulness of Times. He together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages." (Gordon B. Hinckley, Late President of the LDS, Deseret News, Church News section, Salt Lake City, Utah, week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7)

Stop deceiving people. You don't believe in the biblical Christ, that has already been affirmed by the LDS hierarchy. Therefore, to make the statement, "Mormons don't believe in the biblical Christ" is an accurate statement and to suggest otherwise is deception.

Read the above quote again. Either you are lying or your leaders lied. Which is it? Are you trying to deceive people on this board as to what you really believe in order to prosyltize, or are you blindly following leaders who have lied to you?

Let me repeat this again so you get it:

You do in fact believe in a different Christ, not the biblical Christ as your leaders AGAIN have ALREADY PUBLICLY STATED, and its not an error to point that out. It is in fact a LIE to deny what your own leaders have already confirmed!

2,096 posted on 01/06/2011 7:03:55 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: eastforker; SZonian
That is one of the most contradictory statement I have ever read. By telling them that their belief is wrong or untruthful you are in fact telling them not to believe it.

Not true at all. You can believe in the Tooth fairy for all I care. Just don't call it Christianity.

2,097 posted on 01/06/2011 7:05:09 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: SENTINEL
Oh GAG! I went to the Desert Book website and read the synopsis, comments and reviews.

To the Rescue

All I can say is that if he chose to get his reward here on Earth, here it is. Don't come crying later.

2,098 posted on 01/06/2011 7:13:52 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Alex Murphy

Well, corn happens :-)


2,099 posted on 01/06/2011 7:16:07 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Elsie
Why do you lie? Ask me something

I asked you what vital truth is missing from the bible that i need to know in order to spend eternity with Jesus. Still waiting...

2,100 posted on 01/06/2011 7:18:14 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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