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Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender
Now that we've learned that these folks have the stamp of approval from on high I really don't know why Mormons would want to stick around quite frankly. Matter of fact if ya'll packed up and left we'd witness a lot of happy folks around here. Just go back through this thread and count how many times there was an inference for one of you to leave.
We'd learn quickly the motive wasn't to evangelize or to attempt pulling you out of the throngs or your "wicked" cult. I conclude their offerings are efforts to convince themselves they are "right" more than anything. After all, "doubt" is quite natural.
Conversely I don't believe efforts by Mormons to sway the insecure over to their side can be all together successful either. Sure there are exceptions on both sides very occasionally. But for the amount of effort expended the results are sorely lacking.
That's my view from up here in the broadcast booth as color analyst. My play by play man called in sick today. lol.
That's the second time on this thread you so passive-agressively suggested a fellow FReeper might be using 'Westboro' tactics. I think that needs to stop now.
I notice if one Googles TaraP Westboro it is a big deal to you. That's great if you are trying to raise awareness and fight against the ugliness, but don't accuse people here of being associated unless you can back it up.
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I notice if one Googles TaraP Westboro it is a big deal to you. That's great if you are trying to raise awareness and fight against the ugliness, but don't accuse people here of being associated unless you can back it up.
Wouldn't that be kinda like ya'll comparing Mormon beliefs to that of Muslims? Cuz I see alot of that goin' on around here too. Thanx.
Trinitarian Chrisitians sincerely believe and work to practice those beliefs. Non-Trinitarian Christians, including the LDS, are also sincere and work to practice those beliefs. But, we must recognize that these are beliefs, not reasoned mathematical proofs. The discussions do get hot and there is a regular attack force working to take down Mormonism, but as I stated this is a Trinitarian Christian website sponsored and fully owned by a Trinitarian Christian.
We are his guests. We expect Jim to be a good host and for the most part he is, that doesn't mean he has to agree with us. His tolerance for dissenting viewpoints is what makes FR interesting and keeps it from becoming simply a Drudge Report or Instapundit. That dynamism keeps our ideas fresh and makes conservatism strong. Debating the ideas of the day prepares us to take on the massive and destructive liberal onslaught that is destroying America and liberty.
We all agree on that, no?
The LDS religion and its dogma are a direct threat to Trinitarian Christianity. There is no middle ground for its most fervent believers, the group most anti-Mormon. The LDS claim to being the one true Church insults them to the core. This is an assault on their basic beliefs. To expect them to acquiesce is naive.
The two sides will rarely, if ever meet. All religion is proselyting to a certain extent and some are more aggressive. When you have two aggressively proselyting Christian groups meeting on a website that acts as a sounding board for ideas there will be conflict and passion. We see it off the Religion Forum as well.
That said, the Religion Forum is the most vicious and embittered of all the forums. Which is why I mostly stay away from it. It generates more heat than light. I hate to see otherwise thoughtful gentle people who share a common love of country, family and liberty at each others throats. I'm certain each of you would make a wonderful neighbor and good friend in the flesh.
My suggestion is that the LDS ignore the anti-Mormon threads. They actually act as a form of advertising on non-LDS caucus threads. FReepers can think for themselves and weigh the evidence. We all know that eventually the truth outs.
That each of us is a sincere, thoughtful believer is part of America where we tolerate differing religions and have a uniquely American respect for conscious.
Let's practice that now.
Hey, we report. Freepers decide.
Who gets to pick which god? You?
So...
PD is over at YOUR house; eh DU?
Raccoon Stew
1 (4 lb.) raccoon, cut into cubes
2 or 3 onions, sliced
2 to 3 c. canned tomatoes, chopped
Salt & pepper
Bay leaf
Dash of Worcestershire sauce
Carrots
Onions
Potatoes
Turnips
Brown the meat cubes slowly in a Dutch oven. There should be enough fat within the tissues that no additional oil is required. Add onions during the last of the browning process so they won’t become scorched. Reduce the heat, add enough tomatoes and liquid to cover the meat, season and cover. Simmer over low heat until almost completely tender. Add cubed vegetables of your choice and continue to simmer until vegetables are tender. Serve hot with biscuits.
Then go do it, for Pete's sake. You spend so much time defending the biblical-ness of it. You could have taken at least two more wives since this thread alone started!
DU, good morning!
Any luck digging up a “vital truth” yet. The missing piece of the bible?
I’m pretty patient, take your time.
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Name two (giving you the benefit of the doubt)
Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.
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....... The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below. The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further. The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary. Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify. In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building. As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames. What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs. There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed. And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence. |
Whoda thought!
"Q" sick?
Unbelieveable!
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