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Copyright saved the Book of Mormon
Deseret News ^ | Dec. 21, 2010 | Michael De Groote

Posted on 12/31/2010 8:52:23 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

HA ha!

Guess which ORGANIZATION has the copyright to the infamous Joseph Smith Translation of the KJV of the BIBLE?

Guess why the BIG LDS bunch, bunkered down in Salt Lake City, does NOT consider that the JST is, indeed, SCRIPTURE?


21 posted on 12/31/2010 1:16:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dirtboy
So posting a near-daily anti-Mormon thread isn't spamming, but responding to it is?

There is responding; and then there is responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding... responding...

22 posted on 12/31/2010 1:19:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Thanks!


23 posted on 12/31/2010 1:19:46 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: All
Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their forner Church.

Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 


24 posted on 12/31/2010 1:58:41 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

Oh shucks, I didn’t get IB4PDS.


25 posted on 12/31/2010 2:00:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Only because he was so slow - it took him over 5 hours today.


26 posted on 12/31/2010 2:55:38 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: Paragon Defender

“I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.”

Why is your [mormon] Jesus Christ created?
Why is your [mormon] Jesus Christ a polygamist?
Why does your [mormon] Jesus Christ require worthiness?
Why did your [mormon] Jesus Christ accomplish atonement through sweat instead of blood?
Why is your [mormon] Jesus Christ one of millions or billions of gods?
Why is your [mormon] Jesus Christ not Omnipotent?

ampu


27 posted on 12/31/2010 3:05:13 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

With 2010 in the rear view mirror, it might be wise to
reflect on how short our lives are.

Eventually, we will all be extinct - just as the worthy
and ancient Mormonic Curelom has disappeared from the face of the earth!

[Cue the music]

As dawn breaks over mesoAmerica, the trumpeting screams of the hairy curelom fiercely echo over the surrounding cites.

Iron-workers interrupt their production of vast metal works, cities that stretched from sea to shining sea hush in anticipation of another wonderful day in mormon-land.

Just last week, the mormon Jesus had visited to let native Americans know they were really Jews! What a wonderful time to be alive!!!

Flash forward.

America today: If a native American Curelom was watching, he would have a tear in his eye...

All original cities, vanished, leaving nothing behind - not even a cigar butt!

Not even a single foundation of a single iron-worker’s furnace remains.

Not even a single metal work produced here.

And, as it turns out, Cureloms didn’t have bones. Apparently, Cureloms had the structure of jellyfish and today, no evidence remains of their once proud reign!

Only the savage cry of the curelom remains in the brains of mormons who “just believe”, despite any physical evidence.

Only the ring of the ancient iron-workers hammer echos in the minds of mormons who “just believe”, despite the amazing disappearance of millions of metal works.

Only the cheerful laughter remains in the minds of mormons, who insist millions of people lived in cities across America - because Joseph Smith said so!

As it turns out, they too, had the structure of jellyfish.

No bones.
No metalworks.
No cities.
No Cureloms.

A tear wells up in the corner of the imaginary Mormonic Curelom, envisioned within the brain of mormons today.

And the Jewish Indians?

Gone. Replaced with imposters (!) who no longer carry Jewish DNA.

Ah, but the piercing cry of the Curelom remains!!!

They will testify! Oh, how mormons will testify of the Curelom. Joe said!!!

ampu

:-)


28 posted on 12/31/2010 3:34:45 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Paragon Defender
 "I have seen several entirely sincere people who thought they were (permanent) Seekers after Truth. They sought diligently, persistently, carefully, cautiously, profoundly, with perfect honesty and nicely adjusted judgment--until they believed that without doubt or question they had found the Truth. That was the end of the search. The man spent the rest of his life hunting up shingles wherewith to protect his Truth from the weather. If he was seeking after political Truth he found it in one or another of the hundred political gospels which govern men in the earth; if he was seeking after the Only True Religion he found it in one or another of the three thousand that are on the market. In any case, when he found the Truth he sought no further; but from that day forth, with his soldering-iron in one hand and his bludgeon in the other he tinkered its leaks and reasoned with objectors." (from What is Man?)

-- Mark Twain

 


29 posted on 01/01/2011 8:44:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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