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To: Natural Law; bkaycee; caww; wmfights; CynicalBear; metmom; RnMomof7; 1000 silverlings
Trust in the Vatican is misplaced since the papacy has shown itself to err time and again for centuries.

Trust in your God-given conscience and the fact He has given eyes to see and ears to hear to those who are His.

Pray for the ability to discern the word of God. It's the way God has chosen to sanctify and instruct His children, according to the teaching of the free gift of the indwelling Holy Ghost.

Christ told us not to rely on men and their errant doctrines nor on magisteriums made up of enfeebled authoritarians who do not understand the word of God.

Rely on Scripture. It is eternal. And when men defy it or deny it or contradict it, the error is obvious to all those given eyes to see.

By its foul, idolatrous teaching of "another Christ" and "other mediators" and "queens of heaven" and "infallible" old men in dresses and "holy" relics and empty rituals, Rome shows itself to be corrupt, and clearly not in alignment with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

97 posted on 01/01/2011 11:33:06 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: Westbrook; what's up; Dr. Eckleburg

Just pinging the two of you to comment #97. Very difficult to have a civil disagreement, with good manners, with a poster like that. This is typical of open threads. Surely you are familiar?


98 posted on 01/01/2011 11:44:09 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Christ told us not to rely on men and their errant doctrines nor on magisteriums made up of enfeebled authoritarians who do not understand the word of God."

That is exactly why I trust in the Vatican and not the enfeebled, self serving, and syphilitic fathers of the Reformation.

"Rely on Scripture."

Catholics do rely on Scripture and on the Holy traditions that assembled, preserved, and defended it. Before you get all preachy and uppity you need to do a better job justifying the position you demand that others follow by answering and supporting the following simple questions:

1) Define scripture and differentiate it from the hundreds of competing contemporary works rejected by Canon.

2) Provide a Scriptural table of contents or listing of the works that comprise Scripture.

3) Provide a Scriptural proof that establishes that 100% of the revealed Word of God is found in Scripture.

103 posted on 01/01/2011 11:59:28 AM PST by Natural Law
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