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To: SZonian; Godzilla

I’m simply seeking to understand what you meant. If complete apostasy means not one whit of truth left, then there isn’t a complete apostasy.

If instead it simply means that there is no functioning authority discipling, baptizing and teaching ordinances then there was a complete apostasy.

Ordinance being defined as:

1. A rule established by authority; a permanent rule of action. An ordinance may be a law or statute of sovereign power. In this sense it is often used in the Scriptures. Ex. 15. Num. 10. Ezra 3. It may also signify a decree, edict or rescript, and the word has sometimes been applied to the statutes of Parliament, but these are usually called acts or laws. In the United States, it is never applied to the acts of Congress, or of a state legislature.

2. Observance commanded.

3. Appointment.

4. Established rite or ceremony. Heb. 9. In this sense, baptism and the Lord’’s supper are denominated ordinances.

This is in keeping with Matt. 28:19-20.


528 posted on 01/14/2011 6:59:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; SZonian
I’m simply seeking to understand what you meant. If complete apostasy means not one whit of truth left, then there isn’t a complete apostasy.

Interesting to see you swirling in the backwater of lds claims of TOTAL apostasy, not complete 10, please keep focused. I've defined TOTAL in prior post. Remember, smith also said -

AII their creeds and professors (professors of their faith evangelists/preachers) were also wrong.

Not some, not most, not many but ALL - right in line with TOTAL. Please try to stay focused 10 and not parse words or even switch them in mid stream.

530 posted on 01/15/2011 5:41:10 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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