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Here's what I could find online as regards the quotes and it looks to be a real source:

History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints: History of Joseph Smith the Prophet By Joseph Smith, B. H. Roberts

Page XL Announcement of the Universal Apostasy

It looks to be fascinating reading. I'll start in on it asap and get back to you both.

This is a great topic. Clearly apostasy occurred at some level in the Christian Church or the Church of Jesus Christ, no?

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This is a great topic. Clearly apostasy occurred at some level in the Christian Church or the Church of Jesus Christ, no?

Some levels of apostasy - yes, even Jesus predicted it. But these never were a COMPLETE apostasy, the true church remained intact throughout history.