Is Mormonism Christian?: A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity

Institute for Religious Research ^ | 1999

[Elsie]

 

We have not practiced polygamy in over a hundred years...

 

That's because you whimpering simps are AFRAID of the United States Government!

 

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Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages,

which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort,

I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws,

and to use my influence with the members of the Church

over which I preside to have them do likewise.

 

Wilford Woodruff

President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

September 24th, 1890

[Elsie]

I just got to a computer, so now I can quote

Oh GOODY!

NOW you can post the UPDATED MMR's!

[Elsie]

I reject your definition of Christianity just as I believe Jesus would.

You are sumpin' else; DU!

Now you claim to mindread the LORD!

What balls!

[Elsie]

I reject your definition of Christianity just as I believe Jesus would.

Your MORMON rituals are USELESS; says the LORD:

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John 6:28-29 

Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"

Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

[Elsie]

I don't propose to defend ever word spoken in every meeting by everyone who has ever spoken in church.

Then just narrow your focus and merely defend the words of the Living Prophets®.

[Elsie]

I have seen a large number of posts by anti-Mormon “activists”, and in my opinion they should spend their energies on some more important pursuit.

A human soul is worth how much to YOU?

[Elsie]

Yeah, if we were not constantly attacked, I can assure you that Mormons would not be attacking you.

You are either lying; or just stupid.

Pick one.

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 The LDS Organization® prints Hundreds of Thousands of THIS yearly!

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

 

 

The LDS headquarters; in the heart of a modern  US city, visited by THOUSANDS daily, has this placed in prominent view:

 

 

...which reiterates the charge that "they were all wrong; they teach for doctrines the commandments of men".

 

[Elsie]

 

Not a polytheist, my God is one.

 

DU; you REALLY should check out PD's links.

I hear that TRUTH resides in them...

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Godhead

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) believe, as do other Christians, in one Supreme Being who governs the universe, and who is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving. However, Mormons don't believe that He works alone but as the presiding member of what they call the godhead.

The Bible dictionary says that God is “The Supreme Governor of the universe and the Father of mankind. We learn from the revelations that have been given that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. From latter-day revelation we learn that the Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone, and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22-23).”

 Mormons believe that these three gods—”separate in personality {but}. . . united as one in purpose, in plan, and in all the attributes of perfection” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 317)—are the partnership which rules the universe, with God the Eternal Father the controlling and governing power. LDS Apostle James E. Talmage states it this way: “These constitute the Holy Trinity, comprising three physically separate and distinct individuals, who together constitute the presiding council of the heavens” (Jesus the Christ, p. 32).

This belief is distinct from the traditional Christian doctrine of the Trinity, which generally maintains that they are three persons but one in essence. All three members of the Godhead are eternal and equally divine, but play somewhat different roles.

 

 

(From MORMON.wiki --->  http://www.mormonwiki.com/Godhead )   Move along: no agenda here...

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[T Minus Four]

By God through prophets as always...

What if they're lying?

[Osage Orange]

the Bible, which teaches men not to judge each other.

It does NO such thing!

It does teach...that you and I shouldn't judge others....when we are involved in the very same thing.

Thus...I can judge you, because I'm not a mormon. And you can judge me...because you aren't a Christian.

Fair enough?

Frankly DU....if you are going to repeat the liberal whine about judging others.....I don't know what to say to you.

May God finally open your eyes....

[Elsie]

 

As for the condescension, you tone says it all I need not respond.

Number 18!!

 

We have a WINNER!!!

 

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                       Standard LDS responses to data put to them:

 

 1. How you interpret it is wrong...
 2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member....
 3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member...
 4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ...
 5. So's yer Mama!
 6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image.
 7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice!
 8. Bait & Switch
 9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.
10. "I Know It When I See It"
11. Hand waving...
12. YOU play defense for a while.
13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting!
14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting!
15. Huh? Did you say something?
16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.
17. Playing dumb.
18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them.
19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.)
20. And the MOST used... IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked.

[Elsie]

 

As for the condescension, you tone says it all I need not respond.

God Bless...

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“We believe in the same Jesus who we read about in the New Testament.”

Normandy, I will gladly fix this mistake for you so that you can post a truth...

“We believe in the same Jesus who we read into the New Testament.”

And therein lies the total mormon problem.

Merry Christmas!
ampu

[Elsie]

 

As for the condescension, you tone says it all I need not respond.

 

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Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

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Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59            "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16            "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[T Minus Four]

TM4: I’m going to start a church in which we all must paint our toenails green and wear tophats. Nothin’ in the bible saying we can’t do that.

DU: Knock yourself out. You can also rest assured that I will waste no time posting "stuff" about your church here.

YOU WOULD IF WE CALLED IT A MORMON CHURCH!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Mormon Missionary Deception Method:

1. Convince you of their sincerity
2. Trick you into expressing faith first in the Book of Mormon by praying and asking for a sign (this takes you off the objective ground of Biblical truth and puts you into subjective ground of feelings)
3. Convince you that the Bible has errors in its translation
4. Trick you into expressing faith in the prophet Joseph Smith
5. Trick you into expressing faith in the Restoration of the “Gospel” (see Galatians Chapter one)
6. Get you all the way into the baptismal font...

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7. ONLY THEN... you will learn the true DEVIANT doctrines of
Mormonism. At this point, it is too late! You only have
feelings as a basis of truth! You will believe anything.

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Such as the following “truths” taught in mormonism ...

... God used to be a regular Joe, but became God.
... The Jesus of mormonism was a created spirit being who became one of the three mormon earth gods
... Speaking of gods, there are trillions of gods out there!
... Speaking of gods, you can be a God with your own planet!
... It will take work, lots of works to attain the god-level
... Speaking of levels, heaven has three levels.
... Did we mention we believe in a Mother God too?
... SHE is eternally pregnant
... SHE pops out spirit children who will some day get a human body on earth
... SHE and the father god have sex
... All the trillions of gods in the mormon pantheon get together regularly over spring break in Kolob Beach to talk
... Did we mention one of the works you have to do is give 10%?
... Did we mention your bishop will audit you?
... Did we mention you will have to complete Masonic Temple rituals that involve strangers touching your private parts?
... Did we mention you will have magic underwear you must always wear?
... Did we mention we believe in eternally polygamy?
... Did we mention that in eternity, all single females will be assigned to a male god?

... and on and on...

Did we mention that swallowing all this may take swallowing
lots of prescription drugs (Utah has the highest usage of
prescription tranquilizers).

Once in, you have to accept it ALL to move up the chain
towards Godhood.

ampu

[MHGinTN]

As clear a proof of the duplicity that is hallmark of Mormonism as I have ever read! ... You can bet that one is going in my desktop files fro later use.

[MHGinTN]

As clear a proof of the duplicity that is hallmark of Mormonism as I have ever read! ... You can bet that one is going in my desktop files for later use.

[T Minus Four]

It’s hard to believe two of these are back in business along with several other discrdited so-called “Christian” preachers!

True that. They make me cringe.

[Elsie]

...while I could point to biblical scriptures (Highly spun) that support the work, others here would just post opposing interpretations...

And we all have seen that you cannot defend against that!