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To: ansel12

Nope, I have seen studies showing quite clearly that the more years an originally devout Christian (or member of another faith) spends in schooling the more likely they are to become agnostic or atheist.

Doesn’t mean I approve or agree or think this is necessarily a good thing, but it is still a fact.

The primary reason is most likely the extremely anti-religious environment of higher education. It would be quite odd if spending more years immersed in it had no effect.

Such a loss of faith is of course not inevitable or universal, but there is a very strong statistical correlation. Unfortunately, I don’t have the references on me at the moment. You’ll have to take my word for it. Or not.


9 posted on 12/23/2010 12:05:54 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

This is related to my point.

Scientists May Not Be Very Religious, but Science May Not Be to Blame
July 3, 2007 Did God make scientists? Most of them don’t think so.

“Among scientists, as in the general population, being raised in a home in which religion and religious practice were valued is the most important predictor of present religiosity among the subjects.

Ecklund and Scheitle concluded that the assumption that becoming a scientist necessarily leads to loss of religion is untenable.

Ecklund says, “It appears that those from non-religious backgrounds disproportionately self-select into scientific professions. This may reflect the fact that there is tension between the religious tenets of some groups and the theories and methods of particular sciences and it contributes to the large number of non-religious scientists.”

http://www.physorg.com/news102700045.html


10 posted on 12/23/2010 12:20:07 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: Sherman Logan

This is called the Dunning-Kruger effect. It happens regardless of education level and can be illustrated in a survey taken of college professors where 94% of the professors surveyed believed their work was above average. Obviously 50% of them were ill informed if the average held for the entire population of professors. Interestingly, the more a subject actually knows about a topic, the less likely they are to claim to know the most about it. The converse is also true, which explains our Senate, Congress and unfortunately...most of America.


12 posted on 12/23/2010 12:26:47 AM PST by willyd (Tree planting is a zero sum game unless you find the seed on the sidewalk ;-))
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To: Sherman Logan
"Nope, I have seen studies showing quite clearly that the more years an originally devout Christian (or member of another faith) spends in schooling the more likely they are to become agnostic or atheist."

That just shows that years of atheist indoctrination weakens the faith young acolytes. The modern university system was created by the Christian church (and perverted by the atheistic academia) so I don't believe there is any inherent link between true intellectual education and a weakening of the faith.

29 posted on 12/23/2010 4:43:41 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Sherman Logan
Nope, I have seen studies showing quite clearly that the more years an originally devout Christian (or member of another faith) spends in schooling the more likely they are to become agnostic or atheist.

Where are those studies?

I posted one that says differently but you said it was "irrelevant".

“Among scientists, as in the general population, being raised in a home in which religion and religious practice were valued is the most important predictor of present religiosity among the subjects.
Ecklund and Scheitle concluded that the assumption that becoming a scientist necessarily leads to loss of religion is untenable."

41 posted on 12/23/2010 10:11:58 AM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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