To: eastforker
"See, that is your opinion and belief, that does not make it a fact except in your own mind."
No, by definition "moral" presupposes a normative standard. That's simple logic. It is the exact opposite of "opinion". Now please tell me where this standard comes from if there is no God. Don't dodge the question.
To: circlecity
We are human beings, we can think and rationalize, we like to treat other as we would like to be treated.We understand loyalty to our partners.We react sometimes violently when there is a threat to our family.Not because of god or gods, but out of love.We can even teach loyalty and love to some animals, where is their god.Is god a requirement to show common decency or respect, no.In your mind, you think it must be taught as a belief, You can believe in goodness without being taught and not everyone needs salvation by beliefs.
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12/20/2010 1:21:16 PM PST by
eastforker
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To: circlecity
No, by definition “moral” presupposes a normative standard. That’s simple logic. It is the exact opposite of “opinion”. Now please tell me where this standard comes from if there is no God. Don’t dodge the question.
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The discussion below uses the term ‘moral authority’. It starts off saying it ‘might/could’ come from a God (God). But in the end I think it says that we, society, defines moral authority. Not laws mind you but doing what is right.
http://theblog.philosophytalk.org/2007/07/where-does-mora.html
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