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To: eastforker
"You are another one, trying to judge someone by your understanding of the universe. You can not judge someone using subjective beliefs of your faith no more than I can judge you on mine. I could just as easily say that your beliefs are irrational based on a book that I deem to be mythical. That does not mean you are wrong in your beliefs,nor does it mean mine are either"

None of that has anything at all to do with my post. I wasn't judging anything or asserting any understanding of the universe. You completely avoid the point I raised. You said atheists can have high moral standards and I pointed out that is impossible if there is no God because objective morals are impossible without a God. I note atheists almost always avoid addressing this point because they can't.

40 posted on 12/20/2010 12:57:11 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I pointed out that is impossible if there is no God because objective morals are impossible without a God..........................................................................See, that is your opinion and belief, that does not make it a fact except in your own mind.


43 posted on 12/20/2010 1:00:21 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: circlecity; eastforker
I pointed out that is impossible [to have objective moral standards] if there is no God because objective morals are impossible without a God

Morality is relative, not absolute. The standard is determinate by the society, subjectively.

59 posted on 12/20/2010 2:13:13 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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