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To: Deo volente

Why do you all quote Martin Luther? His belief about Mary came from his Catholic background but is not Lutheran doctrine.


216 posted on 12/19/2010 3:52:59 PM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: Vegasrugrat; D-fendr; narses
Regarding Mary and her perpetual virginity, why are the Protestant reformers wrong and you're right?

Why are the early Church Fathers wrong and you're right? Why is Catholic Tradition of the past 2,000 years wrong and you're right?

Why is Orthodox teaching about Mary wrong and you're right?

Why is Vegasrugrat right and all these sources wrong? Where does your authority come from? What makes it more reliable than theirs?

219 posted on 12/19/2010 4:16:20 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Vegasrugrat
His belief about Mary came from his Catholic background but is not Lutheran doctrine.

You could say the same about his belief in the Holy Trinity and everything else concerning Christianity. Yet, he felt free to oppose the Church where he wished - including what constituted scripture.

It's also valuable to know what the early Reformers believed. They were sola scriptura also, yes?

They and the Church knew the scriptures extremely well; and, yet these obvious scriptural problems that some see today were not seen as contrary to their beliefs - until relatively quite recently.

This too undermines the credibility of the more recent innovations on the subject.

222 posted on 12/19/2010 4:24:55 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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