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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“They have the clear and unambiguous words of God in Scripture and yet they STILL believe a lie.”

You said so yourself. ‘Among those born of woman’. That is precisely what Christ says, and I have no intention of denying His statement.

“How long do you think it will be before Rome decides that Mary was not actually ‘born of a woman’ herself, but instead supernaturally conceived by a virgin...?”

What the immaculate conception teaches is that Mary was kept free from sin by the Power of Christ at her conception. Not her birth. Given the idiom, ‘born of woman’ to apply to a purely natural birth, I’d argue it doesn’t apply to Mary due to Christ’s intervention.

“I suppose we should brace ourselves for Mary’s mother to be declared a virgin her entire life...and her mother...and her mother...and...”

I am only surprised that it took so long to make the argument of turtles all the way down.

The problem is that you reject the first part of the teaching, that it is Christ who intervened at her conception. So there is no need for further intervention.


921 posted on 12/19/2010 11:49:19 AM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: BenKenobi
What the immaculate conception teaches is that Mary was kept free from sin by the Power of Christ at her conception.

Where in Scripture are we told such nonsense? It's total fiction that denies the singular work of Christ.

Repent from that foul belief.

The problem is that you reject the first part of the teaching, that it is Christ who intervened at her conception.

Just "lucky," I guess.

937 posted on 12/19/2010 12:34:17 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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The problem is that you reject the first part of the teaching, that it is Christ who intervened at her conception. So there is no need for further intervention.

Got some Scriptural support for that doctrine?

972 posted on 12/19/2010 4:37:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BenKenobi
What the immaculate conception teaches

Who is that? Where does 'IT' teach?

The problem is that you reject the first part of the teaching,

Telling a believer on God's Word ALONE that they 'reject' something Jesus said?

that it is Christ who intervened at her conception. So there is no need for further intervention.

And the Scripture that we rejected is where?

I'm reminded that you are the poster who claimed he doesn't pray to Mary as you did your spin and later on it was a different story. So your 'no need for further invention' is funny!! The RCC Roman Catholic Comedy act is in full swing.
973 posted on 12/19/2010 4:50:16 PM PST by presently no screen name
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