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To: BenKenobi
The wages of sin are death. As Mary was sinless, death could not claim her and so she was bodily assumed into heaven.

Mary could not die because she was sinless...Yet Jesus died...

St. Juvenal, the then Bishop of Jerusalem, stated at the Council of Chalcedon (451), that Mary had died in the presence of the Apostles, but the Apostles opened her tomb they found her body missing. They then concluded that she had been bodily assumed into heaven.

I'd say Juvenal lied...400 years after Christians have been worshiping the risen Lord, some guy determines that Mary was raised without tasting death???

You guys claim Mary is the only person in Biblical history to ever go to heaven with out tasting death...

You guys keep talking like that, I might start worshiping Mary as well...I certainly would if I believed that superstition...

860 posted on 12/19/2010 8:13:09 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

“Mary could not die because she was sinless...Yet Jesus died...”

Jesus was executed. He didn’t die of old age.

“I’d say Juvenal lied...400 years after Christians have been worshiping the risen Lord, some guy determines that Mary was raised without tasting death???”

Bishop of Jerusalem at the time. If you believe that Christ has a human and a divine nature then I really don’t see the issue. Sure you can believe that he was a liar, but the Council verified his claim. If you are willing to question Chalcedon on this point, then you might as well deny that Christ had a human and a divine nature. Same difference.

“You guys claim Mary is the only person in Biblical history to ever go to heaven with out tasting death...”

Seeing as I referred to Enoch and Elijah, you ought to read my post again.

“You guys keep talking like that, I might start worshiping Mary as well...I certainly would if I believed that superstition.”

Well certainly. However, I’m not the one who gets to pick and choose what I believe in, calling the same people liars, while at the same time affirming them makes no sense to me.


870 posted on 12/19/2010 8:51:53 AM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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