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To: BenKenobi; Quix; wmfights; P-Marlowe; metmom; RnMomof7
The passover lamb without blemish requires that Christ be both man AND God in order to serve as the substitutionary sacrifice. Mary is not God so she cannot qualify.

Then stop praying to her and believing she's sinless and bestowing upon her the blasphemous title of co-redeemer and handing over to her the office of mediator between God and men.

If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, it's still a fallen creature like the rest of us.

815 posted on 12/19/2010 12:11:34 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Then stop praying to her and believing she’s sinless and bestowing upon her the blasphemous title of co-redeemer and handing over to her the office of mediator between God and men.

If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, it’s still a fallen creature like the rest of us.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


837 posted on 12/19/2010 7:04:32 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I never called her mediator. I called her an intercessor, an office which is not hers alone. All of us can be intercessors.

Co-redeemer simply means that she worked with Christ in the process of redemption. That’s all. I know you think it means something else, but that’s all we mean when we use the term. How did she work with Christ. She was his mother and raised him.

I’m not going to stop believing that she’s sinless. I think that the Church is right here. I disagree that acknowledging the blessing that Christ gave her diminishes him. She did not make herself sinless, Christ did.

She’s not a fallen creature, thanks to Christ!


842 posted on 12/19/2010 7:19:36 AM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

AGREED. Jesus was fully God because He was conceived by the Holy Spirit. He was fully man because He was born of a normal regular albeit innocent and sweet human being.

Thanks Dr. E.


862 posted on 12/19/2010 8:15:43 AM PST by Joya
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