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To: HossB86

First you accuse me of getting Cynical Bear’s statement wrong then you.

From what I can see, you are both making a distinction between original sin and sins committed. Apparently your definition of ‘sinless’ means that you can have original sin. Which is wrong.

Sinless means just that free from sins committed and free from original sin.

You have two choices. One denying that Christ was sinless or, accepting that Christ made Mary sinless. Those are the only choices. One is wrong because Christ was sinless. I suppose you could argue that Christ really wasn’t born of Mary, but that runs into other problems.

BTW, I raise this issue because Menno Simons struggled with it himself. His answer was to deny that Christ was born of Mary, because if Mary was a sinner than so was Christ. He understood why Mary had to be sinless, but rather than acknowledge that the Church was right, he chose to deny one of the core teachings of Christianity.

I know this is a tough question, this is one that took me about a year to work on. I’m telling you, the only way that works is if Mary is sinless.


338 posted on 12/18/2010 7:49:59 AM PST by BenKenobi ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -Tolkein)
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To: BenKenobi

Again, where did I deny the sinlessness of Christ? Quote the WORDS’that said “Christ is not sinless “

Hoss


371 posted on 12/18/2010 10:01:24 AM PST by HossB86
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To: BenKenobi

Also, there is the “other” way: God is able to do what he wills. I don’t have to “work it out;” Christ already did.

Hoss


376 posted on 12/18/2010 10:06:27 AM PST by HossB86
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To: BenKenobi

One last one: I didn’t accuse you of anything; I pointed out something you actually did. An accusation might leave roommfor argument; you misrepresented what was said to fit your argument. I just called you on it, that’s all.

Hoss


378 posted on 12/18/2010 10:08:54 AM PST by HossB86
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