[RobbyS]

Before I quit, have to give this a shot, asuming the quote is right. of course: 6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power. "Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

And why do you say this, one might ask Richard.? Because of Christ. Through Mary, Christ takes on flesh, become a part of history. He power, her grace, comes from the Spirit who "overshadowed her" as he once overshadowed the tabernacle of the people of Israel. You don't seem to think that the Word became flesh, but simply passed through Mary like light passing through a pane of glass.

[Quix]

YET AGAIN

WHAT THOROUGHLY WRONG assertions.

Of course Christ became flesh . . . and in Mary’s womb.

As He would have if God had raised up a rock to be a virgin descendant of David.

CHRIST ALONE CONQUERED DEATH, HELL AND THE GRAVE. Mary’s job was long past.