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To: OpusatFR
>>Since you quote Irenaeus, you must agree with this:>>

I quote Irenaeus because he is held up as a father of the Catholic Church. He is one of their own. I quote him to try to illustrate how the Catholic Church of today has strayed from what their founding fathers believed.

The concept of Tradition was not supposed to mean that something was to be taught that had not been written in Scripture.

1 Corinthians 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.

205 posted on 12/17/2010 3:41:08 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

“The concept of Tradition was not supposed to mean that something was to be taught that had not been written in Scripture.”

The Trinity is not defined in Scripture. That is Tradition and exposition and a lot of inspiration.

“Catholic Church of today has strayed from what their founding fathers believed.”

In what regard? That would help, first. ( -;


208 posted on 12/17/2010 3:46:47 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: CynicalBear

Catch you later.

Peace be with you


210 posted on 12/17/2010 3:49:26 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: CynicalBear
The concept of Tradition was not supposed to mean that something was to be taught that had not been written in Scripture.

1 Corinthians 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.

This is really the heart of the argument. Tradition can be used, as long as it agrees with Scripture.

211 posted on 12/17/2010 3:57:08 PM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: CynicalBear
The concept of Tradition was not supposed to mean that something was to be taught that had not been written in Scripture.

you do realize, I assume, that for the first few hundred years of the Catholic church, there were no "scriptures" as such. The Catholic church actually provided us with the bible, wrote it, nurtured it, protected it, and made it available to all interested christians. Tradition plays a huge part of the early church.....people talked, compared notes, compqred responses to various stimuli and passed along to their followers what their experiences were. That has been the history of mankind since the beginning....we learn from one another, discuss our beliefs, hear what others say.....kind of like tradition, don't you think??? That having been said....if we could only rely on scripture.....the Catholics would still rule the roost......they wrote and interpreted the scriptures.....get it now??

219 posted on 12/17/2010 6:05:52 PM PST by terycarl (4)
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